SGII: Question for Jon Tuffley re: NSL MICV GMS/L

5 posts ยท Oct 14 1996 to Oct 14 1996

From: Naggaroth@a...

Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:08:10 -0400

Subject: SGII: Question for Jon Tuffley re: NSL MICV GMS/L

Is the NSL's MICV (Gauntlet II APC/MICV) Missle tube a one-use-only
system? It seems to me that it is, or APCs end up having alot more offensive
capability than they should have.

Thanks

Nag

From: Alex Williams <thantos@d...>

Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:57:05 -0400

Subject: Re: SGII: Question for Jon Tuffley re: NSL MICV GMS/L

> Is the NSL's MICV (Gauntlet II APC/MICV) Missle tube a one-use-only

If you go by DIRTSIDE II mechanics, GMS units on vehicles are
infinite-firing devices.  The number of tubes just indicates how many
missiles they can fire off per round.

If that seems a bit gratuitous to you, pick a number (I rather like 5,
but it could vary) and divide the cost/space of the GMS by it, and say
that the base tube comes with only X missiles, with additional rounds
costing/spacing Y.

Myself, I rather like them being infinite-fire.  Given the average
lifespan of vehicles in DSII, you'd think they'd carry enough firepower for
any immediate engagement.

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 05:04:05 -0400

Subject: Re: SGII: Question for Jon Tuffley re: NSL MICV GMS/L

Just looking at a modern U.S. M3 Bradley. It has a dual TOW missile mount with
Thirteen reloads. (Along with that LOVELY chaingun..) I think it is quite
reasonable to assume that a MICV has enough rounds to last a battle.

From: M.J.Elliott@u...

Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:21:20 -0400

Subject: Re: SGII: Question for Jon Tuffley re: NSL MICV GMS/L

> Is the NSL's MICV (Gauntlet II APC/MICV) Missle tube a one-use-only

> Alex Williams wrote:

Wrt DSII, this is correct.

> If that seems a bit gratuitous to you, pick a number (I rather like 5,

> the base tube comes with only X missiles, with additional rounds

See SGII p.30 AMMUNITION SUPPLY "..or any similar weapon...". The question
is whether a GMS/L is a similar weapon to a GMS/P? In my view it is, so
the ammunition supply rules would apply, but a vehicle mounted weapon should

probably have more rounds available than the smaller man-portable type.
I dunno, say 5?

OTOH, you might prefer otherwise. Its up to you and what best fits your
background.

Alex's idea above might work quite well. What would that give for the LKPzW VI
(Gauntlet)?

> Myself, I rather like them being infinite-fire. Given the average

> for any immediate engagement.

Unless the scenario dictated otherwise... Like I said above, ultimately,

its up to you.

Talking about the Gauntlet reminds me. Jon showed me some preproduction
samples of the Gauntlet in 1/300 (i.e. for DSII) yesterday at SELWG.
Very
nice. The first production models of this and a number of other 1/300
scale versions of the 25mm models will be available in the UK sometime between

now and Christmas. In the US they should be available early next
year(???).
I'll keep you informed.

From: Alex Williams <thantos@d...>

Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:05:23 -0400

Subject: Re: SGII: Question for Jon Tuffley re: NSL MICV GMS/L

> M.J.Elliott@uk22p.bull.co.uk wrote:

Well, with TOWs on Bradleys carrying 13 reloads, 5 by default seems a little
low. Maybe go with 10 as the default number of shots for an
unmodified tube, and modify the size/cost by 1/10ths, rounded up in all
cases.  Thus, a 20 shot GMS/L would cost and require twice the space of
a basic GMS/L, but have twice the ammo and still be only /one/ tube.
It'd still be the same cost and size as two GMS/L tubes, however, though
the latter can fire two missiles a turn for half as long.