> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:40:03AM +1000, Alan E Brain wrote:
You know, despite the comedy, this would make a great set-up for a set
of linked scenarios that run throughout the length of a longish Con
like Dragon*Con in Atlanta or some other 4-day. The truly beknighted
(possibly myself, if properly motivated) might tie it to an ongoing
parallel LARP of high-level military officials trying to negotiate
things out neatly.
Mmmmm, fun abounds.
Alexander Williams
> You know, despite the comedy, this would make a great set-up for a set
Hell, it'd make for a great alternate scenario for a regular RPG like T2K.
> The truly beknighted
Beknighted.... beknighted..... do you mean Knighted, or benighted? Or maybe
both, a knight who is also benighted.....
> (possibly myself, if properly motivated) might tie it to an ongoing
Just as long as none of them are angsty vampire fops.....
2B^2
> >The truly beknighted
Or maybe
> both, a knight who is also benighted.....
> Laserlight wrote:
> If you're the GM, though, you'll find you're constantly being paged.
Unless you just don't fit in with the crowd, then you'll be a squire page in a
round hole.
2B^2
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 05:11:23PM -0800, Brian Bilderback wrote:
Or, in my case, an interesting excuse to use the Silhouette system to grind
out vehicle stats. Like I need more projects.:)
> Beknighted.... beknighted..... do you mean Knighted, or benighted? Or
Benighted, though the idea of Canadian Knights amuses me deeply. Sounds more
like a superhero team.
> Just as long as none of them are angsty vampire fops.....
Who better to play European political interests, hmmmm?
> Alexander Williams wrote:
> Or, in my case, an interesting excuse to use the Silhouette system to
You're a gamer. Part of the code is your solemn oath to never have less
than 5 intended projects to "Get to just as soon as I find the time."
> Benighted, though the idea of Canadian Knights amuses me deeply.
See? Champions - one more project.
> > Just as long as none of them are angsty vampire fops.....
Point.
2B^2
> Personally, I'd get a lot of entertainment out of reading the plan for
I'll take a stab at what it might be like.
Scenario: A BioWar attack on US population centres has led to large numbers of
infected refugees fleeing across the border to Canada. Said BioWar attack is
strongly suspected to be from a sect whose tenets involve the banning of
teaching of the Round Earth Theory, that Aryans are God's Chosen People, and
advocates the extermination of all subhumans with brown eyes.
This sect is revealed to have given several million dollars in campaign
funding to the Repocrats, the US party in power. It is suspected that small
but key parts of the US military have been subverted by many members of this
sect, but this is rumour with little direct evidence.
The President of the US has now been missing, presumed dead for several days
after the crash of Air Force One. The VP is currently in jail facing
impeachment for massive corruption and possessing kiddie porn. The Speaker of
the House has been reported by the New York Times as being a Cult sympathiser.
The popular black mayor of Minneapolis has been assasinated, and Blacks
throughout the US are rioting at the perceived lack of police action to catch
his killer(s), who may be in hiding in Manitoba. US FBI agents have gone well
beyond "Hot pursuit" deep into Canadian territory, and have fired at RCMP
units in a
Blue-On-Blue
caused by inexplicable communications mixups. Chicago and Detroit are both in
flames, and the US military has been called out to restore order, with no
success. Some mainly white US military units have reportedly commited grave
violations of human rights, possibly instigated by Cult members who may have
subverted US military communications.
Canadian Mission: a) To restore the integrity of Canadian borders by occupying
a zone some 20km
in depth throughout the North-Central. This is to stop plague victims,
but also to stop the infiltration of Cult members carrying weapons of mass
destruction into or out of Canada. It's also to stop elements of the US Govt
acting on false orders from commiting mayhem on innocent Canadians. b) To
assist elements of the US military in restoring order in Minn., Ill. etc and
in particular to neutralise by any means neccessary the military capabilities
of probably subverted units. c) To assist in quarantine of the plague. d) To
restore order, utilities, and public health services. e) To aid the lawful
authorities in the US, as soon as they can work out exactly who they are.
In other words, something similar in conception, though not in detail, to the
scenario in the Tuffleyverse.
Note the lack of Intel in the above. Are the comms foulups due to Murphy's
Law? To Cultist infiltration? Script kiddies? Foreign Powers? Did the US
Attorney-General
really order in the FBI to get the suspected assasins, regardless of Canadian
Sovereignty in a desperate attempt to stop the US cities from burning? Or is
he a Cultist? Or just a panicked politician out of his depth? Or were the
comms subverted? Who has the Football? The longer this state of affairs
exists, the
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Brian Bilderback wrote:
> Alexander Williams wrote:
Five? Only five? Brian, you're really going to have to try harder at this. I
think I have five *lists* of gaming projects.
Or I would, if I could find any time to write those lists out... <g>
the other Brian - yh728@victoria.tc.ca -
- http://wind.prohosting.com/~warbard/games.html -
> >Benighted, though the idea of Canadian Knights amuses me deeply.
> > You're a gamer. Part of the code is your solemn oath to never
You're both slackers. It's five *genres* (GZGverse, Crusades, fantasy New
World, Champions, Victorian), each of which has multiple lists (fiction, web
page, miniatures, terrain, characters, campaign, rules), each of which has
multiple projects.
Yes, but you're only talking about the English-language side of
things...
> Laserlight wrote:
From: "Alexander Williams" <thantos@telocity.com>
> Benighted, though the idea of Canadian Knights amuses me deeply.
No, it's Australians who are beknighted. After all,when "Mad Max" was released
in the US as "Road Warrior", the Strine accents had
From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
> Localization into CCJK FIGS and Brazilian Portuguese is a subtask
What's the difference between Braziliero and East Timor Portugese? We're
sponsoring a child in East Timor, and we'd like to write to her in a language
either she or the Nuns looking after her have
Actually, we have "Mad Max" as the first movie and "Road Warrior" as the
sequel (officially Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior). I don't recall how the
accents worked out in the USA release. I still remmember being pissed at
a motel I stayed in somewhere around 1983 (during a cross continental
drive no less) - Mad Max was on the TV listings, but they showed
something else, having just seen Road Warrior I was more than mildly annoyed.
Trivia question: What was Max' last name, without visiting www.imdb.com (which
is where I got it).
ObGZG: Does SG2 have enough vehicle detail to handle the road action from the
movies, or are we stuck with Car Wars?
> Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:
> From: "Alexander Williams" <thantos@telocity.com>
Anyone have an undubed version in NTSC? This has always been a search item for
me.
Bob Makowsky
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G'day,
> No, it's Australians who are beknighted. After all,when "Mad Max"
I may have mentioned this before, but at a European conference I went to a few
years back they gave me an interpreter so that the audience could understand
my English;)
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 01:52:04AM -0800, Michael Llaneza wrote:
http://www.owencooper.com/axlesalloys/ was mentioned here last year (by
Don M), and is certainly ideologically pure... :-)
'Mad Max' has just been release in the US with the original soundtracks. Check
Amazon.com or your local Media Play.
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From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
> Localization into CCJK FIGS and Brazilian Portuguese is a subtask
AEB:
> What's the difference between Braziliero and East Timor Portugese?
Well, from my point of view, the difference is the market size (Brazil has
IIRC 170 million, Portugal about 10 million people), which makes
Brazilian an easier sell. :-)
I don't know anything about the East Timor dialect but I'd bet that if you use
either Iberian or Brazilian, you'd be understood, you just wouldn't sound like
a native (which is what localization aims for). Comparable, I'd think, to the
difference between Southern US English and
Australian--you might not know what a "hushpuppy" is or use "y'all"
correctly, but could usually get by if you avoid slang.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:14:47 -0400, "Bob Makowsky" <rmakowsky@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Anyone have an undubed version in NTSC? This has always been a search
Seems like everyone was thinking of this! *L* I did my ACW rules first. I was
thinking of going the World War II route with SG, but I bought "Beer and
Pretzels Skirmish", and it looks to be faster paced than SG but with
everything I'd want in a WW2 skirmish game.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:55:18 -0500, "laserlight@quixnet.net"
> <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:
> Comparable, I'd think, to the difference between Southern US English
I'm learning, though! I recently found out what a hushpuppy was. I haven't had
butter beans yet, but I saw them in a store. The proper way to pronounce
"pecan" down here is "peh-con" not "pee-can". The phrase "Where are you
at?"
is considered grammatically correct. And then there's the whole debate over
"barbecue is not a verb!".
> I'm learning, though! I recently found out what a hushpuppy was. I
It's not??? I've been in Texas now almost eight years, you could have fooled
me!
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:32:23 -0600, "Don M" <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com> wrote:
> It's not??? I've been in Texas now almost eight years, you could have
Not in Louisiana, not in Tennessee (or maybe Alabama, my friend is from
Alabama living in Memphis) and not in Mississippi.
Barbecue is meet covered in sauce. That's pretty much it.
Canada: to barbecue Louisiana: to grill
Canada: have a barbecue LA: have a cook out
Canada: gas barbecue LA: gas grill
Canada: barbecuing LA: grilling
Canada: barbecued steak LA: grilled steak
Folks around here are pretty adamant about it. Of course, I've had the whole
"Texas isn't Southern" debate, too...
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> Allan Goodall wrote:
> Not in Louisiana, not in Tennessee (or maybe Alabama, my friend is from
Barbecue has almost as many definitions in the US as the US has regions, and
many consider each others' definitions as heresy (Especially the South, Texas,
and Kansas City). Fortunately, I grew up in a region settled by pioneers from
all those other regions, so we pretty much let you define it
any way you want. Just save us some. ;-)
3B^2
Allan said:
> I'm learning, though! I recently found out what a hushpuppy was. I
Don said:
> It's not??? I've been in Texas now almost eight years, you could have
But Allan is talking about Southern dialect. Texas isn't Southern.
> --- Allan Goodall <agoodall@att.net> wrote:
> Folks around here are pretty adamant about it. Of
Ummm, looking at the home state of forces in the the Army of Northern
Virginia, Louisiana isn't Southern. Whereas Texas contributed a division
commander and most of a division.
> --- Allan Goodall <agoodall@att.net> wrote:
JohnA said:
> Ummm, looking at the home state of forces in the the
That's an unusual criterion, John.
> Louisiana isn't Southern.
You are advised for your health not to repeat this out loud near natives of
Louisiana. The last one I met was a charming young lady
who pointed out that we were mispronouncing--omitting the first
> Laserlight wrote:
> > Louisiana isn't Southern.
Texas, Louisiana, Virginia, "Damnyankees".... Hell, each and every one of them
can stand facing in the direction of the Rocky Mountains and see the
_*SETTING*_ sun.... that means they're all _Easterners_!
3B^2
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:59:00 -0800 (PST), John Atkinson
> <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ummm, looking at the home state of forces in the the
Excuse me? The Washington Artillery was part of the Army of Northern Virginia.
Came from the Washington Armory, New Orleans. Hays brigade of Louisianans were
in Early's division. That would be the 5th through 9th Louisiana regiments.
Nicholl's brigade was under Colston's division. This consisted of the 1st,
2nd, 10th, 14th, and 15th Louisiana regiments, all of whom were heavily
engaged at Chancellorsville.
You are certainly not correct in there being no Louisianans in the Army of
Northern Virginia.
The whole "Texas isn't Southern" thing is something, as a Canadian, I don't
quite get. It seems to me it's mostly tongue in cheek.
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:38:56 +1100 Beth.Fulton@csiro.au writes:
Hey, Beth, what about New Zealnad's Secret Plan to invade and subdue Australia
if needed? Any truth to the story of armed sheep moving in paramilitary
formations seen on satelite?
Gracias,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:14:38 -0500 "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
writes:
> >The truly beknighted
Here we go again!
> --- Allan Goodall <agoodall@att.net> wrote:
> You are certainly not correct in there being no
I didn't say there weren't any. I said (or at least meant to say) there
weren't many.
> The whole "Texas isn't Southern" thing is something,
Umm... Texas has a somewhat different culture from the rest of the South. Not
too bad, but you've also got a lot of Western influences.
Depends on how you define "a lot". There were two full brigades worth that I
know of, totalling originally 10 regiments and 5 battalions. They were
consolidated into a single brigade as a result of casualties in 1864. There is
an excellent book "Lee's Tigers" by Terry L. Jones, that goes into exhaustive
detail on the service of Louisiana troops in the Army of Northern Virginia.
The specific units concerned were the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th,
14th and 15th Louisiana Volunteer regiments, the 1st Special Battalion
(Wheat's battalion, aka the 'Tiger' Zouaves), Dreux's battalion(1st Louisiana
Volunteer Battalion), Coppens' Louisiana Zouave battalion(1st Louisiana
Zouaves), 3rd Battalion, Louisiana Infantry (Bradford's Battalion), and the
Washington Infantry Battalion (St. Paul's Foot Rifles). The 6th, 7th, 8th, and
9th,with the 1st Special battalion, formed Richard Taylor's brigade that
played such a prominent part in Jackson's Valley campaign. Seven batteries of
Louisiana artillery also served with the ANV, of which the 4 batteries of the
Washington Artillery are the best known.
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:42:21 -0800 (PST), John Atkinson
> <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You are certainly not correct in there being no
Okay. Then it depends on your definition of "many", and of course, when in the
war you were talking about.
I looked up the order of battle for Gettysburg. There were more Louisianans
than Texans (you mentioned the comparison to Texas). Two brigades of infantry
and artillery batteries equalling at least 18 guns for Louisiana, one brigade
of infantry for Texas. At Antietam, it was about 9 batteries of artillery and
11 regiments for Louisiana; 3 regiments and no artillery for Texas. I'm not
sure where you got the idea that Texas supplied "most of a division", but
Texas never supplied a large number of men for the Army of Northern Virginia.
As for generals, Louisiana had P.G.T. Beauregard... of course that should
probably count as some sort of negative.
I'm also not sure why you picked the Army of Northern Virginia. Granted it was
the largest Confederate army, but the western armies were more likely to have
Texans and Louisianans.
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:25:34 -0500, "Robert W. Eldridge"
> <bob_eldridge@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Seven batteries of Louisiana artillery also
Whoops! You're correct. I miscounted batteries. Only 7...: 4 for the
Washington Artillery, Donaldsville Artillery (Maurin's Battery), Madison Light
Artillery, Louisiana Guard Artillery (D'Aquin's Battery).
> Adrian Johnson wrote:
> Having said that, we do have tanks (a whopping 114 Leopard I's)
because we
> based a mechanized brigade in Germany for decades, and they would have
> Funnily enough, we're replacing our rather similar Oz Leopard1 A4s with
> Abrams. These are not so much to fight other tanks as to provide Direct
> Fire Support in a high-RPG environment.
And you can jump into pre-positioned US equipment...
Canada was going to buy 300 new MBT's in a late-80's defense plan (that
was
the same White Paper that talked about buying a dozen nuke-powered
attack subs), and they were going to be Leopard II's. There was no mention
that I remember about buying any means of getting the tanks TO a fight
anywhere...
I heard a story that the US offered us a brigade worth of equipment
lock-stock-and-barrel for action in Iraq/Kuwait during Gulf War I; they
didn't want to ship in the Canadian Mech Brigade in Germany with their
equipment, since 80 or so Leopard I's would have just been a pain in the ass
logistically (only ones in theatre) and not add very much militarily.
Buying the Abrams makes a lot of sense if you're planning on operating with
the US.