From: Darryl Hills <dhills@w...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 01:46:08 -0500
Subject: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
Hi everyone, Here are the details for Cancon 97. It's going to be an excellent competition. Document is in Word 6.
From: Darryl Hills <dhills@w...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 01:46:08 -0500
Subject: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
Hi everyone, Here are the details for Cancon 97. It's going to be an excellent competition. Document is in Word 6.
From: Bob Blanchett <bob.blanchett@i...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:09:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:46:08 +1100, you wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. here's the text from the rules, for those of you who can't/won't decode MIME. For those of you who are confused, Cancon is the Australian National Wargames/RPG Convention. BIG DBM & DBR comp also. See ya there! Bob. -------= FULL THRUST CANCON 97 Sponsored by Eureka Miniatures (03) 9568 4085 Full Thrust Cancon 97 Introduction The following rule changes and options will be in force during the Full Thrust Competition at Cancon 97. As this is the first time the competition has been run, changes are being kept to a minimum. The competition will be held on Saturday and Sunday. On Monday we will be running demo games. Tables and terrain will be available if people wish to play friendly games on Monday. For further information contact Darryl Hills: Telephone (02) 9569 3613 E-mail dhills@wr.com.au Fleets Only STANDARD SHIP designs will be used in the competition. Players are to provide the following:  A fleet of 1800 points, chosen from attachment 1,  A fleet of 1000 points, chosen from attachments 1 and/or 2. All fleets are to have the bases clearly marked so opponents know if a ship is of Escort, Cruiser or Capital class. (Coloured dots will be supplied by the organisers). Battles There will be three battles per day. Setup Ship setup and starting velocities shall be supplied for each battle. Time Each battle will run for two hours, plus or minus ten minutes. When time is called, the current turn shall be completed. Notes on Rules For Cancon Items from BK 1 NOT USED:  Sensors and Target Identification. (Class of ship and all ship damage will be visible to the opponent) Items from BK 2 IN USE:  C batteries as anti fighter defense  Terrain effects (by scenario)  Fighter Endurance  Advanced and Specialised Fighter types (fighter types cannot be combined, ie a base of fighters can be Fast or Interceptors but not Fast Interceptors)  Planets (by scenario) Additional Notes  Ships leaving the table cannot return  All ships start on table  Unless specified by the scenario ships cannot use their FTL drives during the course of the battle  Threshold tests shall be made openly so that both players know what system is being tested for and what damage was done Victory Point Determination The VP's for each ship are listed in the attachments. Each time a full row is destroyed you receive the listed VP's, these are non cumulative. Partially damaged rows are worth no VP's. Example 1: An escort cruiser is worth the following number of victory points - 15/30/45. If it has taken one full row of damage it would be worth 15VP's If it takes two full rows of damage it is worth 30VP's If it is fully destroyed (all three rows) it is worth 45VP's. Any ship that leaves the table is worth the points for the current amount of damage inflicted or half total points, whichever is greater. Example 2: A heavy cruiser is worth the following number of victory points - 20/40/63. If it has taken no damage and leaves the table it would be worth 32VP's, as all fractions are to be rounded up, half of 63 is 32. If the same ship leaves the table after taking 2 full rows of damage it would be worth 40VP's, as this is greater than half points. If a player concedes, it is assumed for VP calculation that all of their remaining ships have left the table and are worth the current damage level or half points, whichever is greater. Destroyed fighters are also worth VP's. A fighter that fails to return to it's parent ship is assumed to be destroyed. Attachment 1. --------------------- Ship Type Points Cost Victory Points Courier 15 3 Strikeboat Bk2 26 0/4 Scout Ship 28 0/5 Lancer Bk2 39 0/6 Corvette 43 0/8 Frigate 65 5/14 Torpedo Destroyer Bk2 86 5/19 Destroyer 92 10/21 Super Destroyer Bk2 105 10/28 Needle Cruiser Bk2 187 10/25/41 Light Cruiser 190 10/25/39 Escort Cruiser 195 15/30/45 Strike Cruiser Bk2 198 15/30/50 Heavy Cruiser 238 20/40/63 Super Heavy Cruiser 267 25/50/75 Escort/Patrol Carrier Bk2 286 15/30/45/63 Battlecruiser 381 25/50/75/101 Battleship 447 30/60/90/123 Battledreadnought 431 35/70/110/147 Light Carrier 499 35/70/105/142 Superdreadnought 580 55/115/170/230 Fleet Carrier 687 50/100/150/202 Normal fighters 1 per fighter Fast fighters 1.5 per fighter Heavy fighters 1.5 per fighter Interceptor fighters 1.5 per fighter Attack fighters 1.5 per fighter Long Range fighters 1.5 per fighter Torpedo fighters 2 per fighter Attachment 2
From: Nick Meredith <nickm@d...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 09:20:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
Thanks for the details on Cancon. The Word document you attached took longer to download than the rest of my email for today added together. Being a binary file it may have contained viruses, and it is definitely against the rules of this list. I have not expanded it out to find out. Interestingly someone else has decoded it and sent the text of it to the list. It is much smaller, and presumably contains the same amount of useful information, Please do not send binary attachments to the list.
From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 10:52:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> At 05:46 PM 12/21/96 +1100, you wrote: Please do NOT send binary attachments to the mailing list. Either send a small message asking for people who want the information (especially since it's for a convention in Australia), or post the info in a text message. This list officially prohibits binaries. What's more, this is a Word document. Not only is this format impossible to be used by several people on the list, it could easily contain one of the Concept macro viruses. I will not open this document since I can't be certain.
From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:59:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> At 10:52 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote: Just use a dos based text viewer/editor. Slice off the parts that are unreadable. What you have left is text only.
From: Nick Meredith <nickm@d...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 12:02:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> On 21 Dec 96 at 11:59, hosford.donald wrote: > At 10:52 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote: > Just use a dos based text viewer/editor. Slice off the parts that are Why should we do that? The message could have been sent more easily in a shorter form which could have been read immediately by sending it as straightforward text. The sending it as a binary file - in this case a Word 6 document is thoughtless and stupid.
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:47:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> At 10:52 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote: Plus, just for a datapoint for y'all who aren't fully aware, not everyone out in the world has DOS in any way, shape, or form. Some (quite a number) of us get our mail through other means (eg, mine through work in a vms enviroment - ain't no such thing as 'dos' there, unless someone defined it in their login as 'directory/owner/size' ;-) So if you really want to limit the audience you're targetting, sure, by all means, LIMIT IT! I sure dont want to read it if you don't really want me to. (sorry for the minor vent; just really tired of people assuming that just because *they* have a particular system/set-up, everyone else does, too). Mk
From: Alex Williams <thantos@d...>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:11:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> Plus, just for a datapoint for y'all who aren't fully aware, not For the record, here at home I use ULTRIX on an old DECstation 5000/240, at work its Digital UNIX 4.0b running on anything from a tiny Mustang workstation to a TurboLaser supercomputer. In none of those settings is a DOS-usable file short of ASCII going over well. :) If you /really/ need to have embedded font changes, pics and the like, learn HTML 2.0 and, /please/ use the MIME attachment facility to tag it onto the end of your notice email as well as quoting the ASCII representation of same before the attachment.
From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:55:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> Plus, just for a datapoint for y'all who aren't fully aware, not
From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:07:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> At 11:59 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote: Assuming you have a DOS based machine. What about people who are reading their mail on a Unix box? Before our mainframe based system switched to a Lotus Notes server, my mail was pumped into a mainframe based e-mail system (PROFS). I couldn't even download attachments. It would have been far more useful to publish the information as an e-mail message (not to mention, smaller). Attached binaries don't belong on this mailing list, as Adam has stated several times in the past.
From: FieldScott@a...
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:17:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
Nick wrote, > Why should we do that? The message could have been sent more > in this case a Word 6 document is thoughtless and stupid. Not to mention that for those of us on commercial severs, time = money. Long downloads of things I won't read anyway is a waste of both. Just don't do it again. ;-) Scott
From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:59:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
> At 11:07 PM 12/22/96 -0500, you wrote: Sorry....It's just that I hear so much about pcs and macs that the "other" machines don't even cross my mind. Some of them I had never heard of before....please excuse my ignorance. Allways with an open mind:
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:03:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details
[snip,slice,chomp,munch] > What you have left is text only. [munch,chomp,slice,snip] > Sorry....It's just that I hear so much about pcs and macs that the No problem...but SHOULD it happen again....expect a warmed and loaded Nova Cannon pointed in your direction... ;-) Mk