Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

13 posts · Dec 21 1996 to Dec 24 1996

From: Darryl Hills <dhills@w...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 01:46:08 -0500

Subject: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

Hi everyone,

Here are the details for Cancon 97. It's going to be an excellent competition.

Document is in Word 6.

From: Bob Blanchett <bob.blanchett@i...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:09:25 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:46:08 +1100, you wrote:

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
here's the text from the rules, for those of you who can't/won't
decode MIME.

For those of you who are confused, Cancon is the Australian National
Wargames/RPG Convention. BIG DBM & DBR comp also.

See ya there!

Bob.
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FULL THRUST

CANCON 97 Sponsored by Eureka Miniatures (03) 9568 4085

Full Thrust Cancon 97 Introduction The following rule changes and options will
be in force during the Full Thrust Competition at Cancon 97. As this is the
first time the competition has been run, changes are being kept to a minimum.
The competition will be held on Saturday and Sunday. On Monday we will be
running demo games. Tables and terrain will be available if people wish to
play friendly games on Monday. For further information contact Darryl Hills:
Telephone (02) 9569 3613
E-mail  dhills@wr.com.au
Fleets Only STANDARD SHIP designs will be used in the competition. Players are
to provide the following: • A fleet of 1800 points, chosen from attachment 1,
•      A fleet of 1000 points, chosen from attachments 1 and/or 2.
All fleets are to have the bases clearly marked so opponents know if a ship is
of Escort, Cruiser or Capital class. (Coloured dots will be supplied by the
organisers). Battles There will be three battles per day. Setup Ship setup and
starting velocities shall be supplied for each battle. Time Each battle will
run for two hours, plus or minus ten minutes. When time is called, the current
turn shall be completed.

Notes on Rules For Cancon Items from BK 1 NOT USED: • Sensors and Target
Identification. (Class of ship and all ship damage will be visible to the
opponent) Items from BK 2 IN USE: • C batteries as anti fighter defense •
Terrain effects (by scenario) • Fighter Endurance • Advanced and Specialised
Fighter types (fighter types cannot be combined, ie a base of fighters can be
Fast or Interceptors but not Fast Interceptors) • Planets (by scenario)
Additional Notes • Ships leaving the table cannot return • All ships start
on table • Unless specified by the scenario ships cannot use their FTL drives
during the course of the battle • Threshold tests shall be made openly so
that both players know what system is being tested for and what damage was
done Victory Point Determination The VP's for each ship are listed in the
attachments. Each time a full row is destroyed you receive the listed VP's,
these are non cumulative. Partially damaged rows are worth no VP's. Example 1:
An escort cruiser is worth the following number of victory points -
15/30/45.
If it has taken one full row of damage it would be worth 15VP's If it takes
two full rows of damage it is worth 30VP's If it is fully destroyed (all three
rows) it is worth 45VP's.

Any ship that leaves the table is worth the points for the current amount of
damage inflicted or half total points, whichever is greater. Example 2:
A heavy cruiser is worth the following number of victory points -
20/40/63.
If it has taken no damage and leaves the table it would be worth 32VP's, as
all fractions are to be rounded up, half of 63 is 32. If the same ship leaves
the table after taking 2 full rows of damage it would be worth 40VP's, as this
is greater than half points. If a player concedes, it is assumed for VP
calculation that all of their remaining ships have left the table and are
worth the current damage level or half points, whichever is greater. Destroyed
fighters are also worth VP's. A fighter that fails to return to it's parent
ship is assumed to be destroyed.

Attachment 1.
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Ship Type Points Cost Victory Points Courier 15 3 Strikeboat Bk2 26
0/4
Scout Ship 28
0/5
Lancer Bk2 39
0/6
Corvette 43
0/8
Frigate 65
5/14
Torpedo Destroyer Bk2 86
5/19
Destroyer 92
10/21
Super Destroyer Bk2 105
10/28
Needle Cruiser Bk2 187
10/25/41
Light Cruiser 190
10/25/39
Escort Cruiser 195
15/30/45
Strike Cruiser Bk2 198
15/30/50
Heavy Cruiser 238
20/40/63
Super Heavy Cruiser 267
25/50/75
Escort/Patrol Carrier Bk2
286
15/30/45/63
Battlecruiser 381
25/50/75/101
Battleship 447
30/60/90/123
Battledreadnought 431
35/70/110/147
Light Carrier 499
35/70/105/142
Superdreadnought 580
55/115/170/230
Fleet Carrier 687
50/100/150/202
Normal fighters

1 per fighter Fast fighters

1.5 per fighter Heavy fighters

1.5 per fighter Interceptor fighters

1.5 per fighter Attack fighters

1.5 per fighter Long Range fighters

1.5 per fighter Torpedo fighters

2 per fighter

Attachment 2

From: Nick Meredith <nickm@d...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 09:20:06 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

Thanks for the details on Cancon.

The Word document you attached took longer to download than the rest of my
email for today added together. Being a binary file it may have contained
viruses, and it is definitely against the rules of this list. I have not
expanded it out to find out.

Interestingly someone else has decoded it and sent the text of it to the list.
It is much smaller, and presumably contains the same amount of useful
information,

Please do not send binary attachments to the list.

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 10:52:14 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> At 05:46 PM 12/21/96 +1100, you wrote:

Please do NOT send binary attachments to the mailing list.

Either send a small message asking for people who want the information
(especially since it's for a convention in Australia), or post the info in a
text message. This list officially prohibits binaries.

What's more, this is a Word document. Not only is this format impossible to be
used by several people on the list, it could easily contain one of the Concept
macro viruses. I will not open this document since I can't be certain.

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:59:23 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> At 10:52 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
Just use a dos based text viewer/editor.  Slice off the parts that are
unreadable.

What you have left is text only.

From: Nick Meredith <nickm@d...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 12:02:55 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> On 21 Dec 96 at 11:59, hosford.donald wrote:

> At 10:52 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote:

> Just use a dos based text viewer/editor. Slice off the parts that are

Why should we do that? The message could have been sent more easily in a
shorter form which could have been read immediately by
sending it as straightforward text. The sending it as a binary file -
in this case a Word 6 document is thoughtless and stupid.

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:47:39 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> At 10:52 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote:

Plus, just for a datapoint for y'all who aren't fully aware, not everyone out
in the world has DOS in any way, shape, or form. Some (quite a number) of us
get our mail through other means (eg, mine through work in a vms
enviroment - ain't no such thing as 'dos' there, unless someone defined
it
in their login as 'directory/owner/size' ;-)

So if you really want to limit the audience you're targetting, sure, by all
means, LIMIT IT! I sure dont want to read it if you don't really want me to.

(sorry for the minor vent; just really tired of people assuming that just
because *they* have a particular system/set-up, everyone else does,
too).

Mk

From: Alex Williams <thantos@d...>

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:11:20 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> Plus, just for a datapoint for y'all who aren't fully aware, not

For the record, here at home I use ULTRIX on an old DECstation
5000/240, at work its Digital UNIX 4.0b running on anything from a
tiny Mustang workstation to a TurboLaser supercomputer. In none of
those settings is a DOS-usable file short of ASCII going over well.
:)

If you /really/ need to have embedded font changes, pics and the like,
learn HTML 2.0 and, /please/ use the MIME attachment facility to tag
it onto the end of your notice email as well as quoting the ASCII
representation of same before the attachment.

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:55:15 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> Plus, just for a datapoint for y'all who aren't fully aware, not

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:07:14 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> At 11:59 AM 12/21/96 -0500, you wrote:

Assuming you have a DOS based machine. What about people who are reading their
mail on a Unix box? Before our mainframe based system switched to a
Lotus Notes server, my mail was pumped into a mainframe based e-mail
system (PROFS). I couldn't even download attachments.

It would have been far more useful to publish the information as an
e-mail
message (not to mention, smaller). Attached binaries don't belong on this
mailing list, as Adam has stated several times in the past.

From: FieldScott@a...

Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:17:20 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

Nick wrote,

> Why should we do that? The message could have been sent more

> in this case a Word 6 document is thoughtless and stupid.

Not to mention that for those of us on commercial severs, time = money. Long
downloads of things I won't read anyway is a waste of both.

Just don't do it again.  ;-)

Scott

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:59:34 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

> At 11:07 PM 12/22/96 -0500, you wrote:
Sorry....It's just that I hear so much about pcs and macs that the "other"
machines don't even cross my mind. Some of them I had never heard of
before....please excuse my ignorance.

Allways with an open mind:

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:03:53 -0500

Subject: Re: Cancon 97 Full Thrust Details

[snip,slice,chomp,munch]
> What you have left is text only.
[munch,chomp,slice,snip]
> Sorry....It's just that I hear so much about pcs and macs that the

No problem...but SHOULD it happen again....expect a warmed and loaded
Nova Cannon pointed in your direction...  ;-)

Mk