From: Richard Kirke <richardkirke@h...>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:17:44 +0000
Subject: WWII DSII
DSII for WWII, hmm I think there is some stuff on the web for that, but I would recomend that you play Spear Head instead, its a really good set of Divisional (+) level wargames rules, very quick play, really smooth mechanics etc.
From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:48:34 +1300
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
> DSII for WWII, level wargames rules, very quick play, really smooth mechanics etc. What would be really great would be to adapt Spearhead rules to use Dirtside II equipment and technology. A SF Spearhead.
From: bbrush@u...
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:20:32 -0500
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
Well we're interested in lots of rules sets, but from what I've read about
Spearhead, it's not really an analog to DSII. DSII is a Battalion level game,
and Spearhead is a Divisional level game. Just a tad different. Plus DS has
the advantage that I already have it, whereas I don't have Spearhead.
Bill
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DSII for WWII,
hmm I think there is some stuff on the web for that, but I would recomend that
you play Spear Head instead, its a really good set of Divisional
(+)
level wargames rules, very quick play, really smooth mechanics etc.
From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:16:29 -0700
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
I found somebody's DS II WW II rules, printed them out. I thought they were
well thought out and realistic. It included rules for half-tracks (which
I had already been contemplating), as well as main guns. It also gave me some
ideasfor dealing with more primitive c3 capabilities. I wish I remembered the
address.
BrCB
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: "Richard Kirke" <richardkirke@hotmail.com>
From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:21:21 -0700
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
Especially if it's a divisional level game - it would certainly be nice
to have a tier of ground combat above DS II.
BrCB
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: "Andrew Martin" <Al.Bri@xtra.co.nz>
From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:53:18 -0400
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
> Richard Kirke wrote: There was an article published in issue #80 of The Courier magazine titled "Dirtside II Variant for WWII" by David Hornung. He adds rules for LVC, MVC, different sizes of machines guns, and ground attack aircraft. There are vehicle conversions for many US, German, and Soviet vehicles. LVC - Low velocity cannon MVC - Medium velocity cannon If you have a subscription to MagWeb, the article is available online from that resource. www.magweb.com Otherwise, the magazine should still be available at a good gaming store. I picked up my copy from Brookhurst Hobbies when I was out in L.A. earlier this year.
From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:57:10 -0400
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
Alternately, if you play Hordes of the Things, there are rules for WW2 and modern divisional at
From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:57:46 -0500
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
*** There was an article published in issue #80 of The Courier magazine titled "Dirtside II Variant for WWII" by David Hornung. *** Bill, I think I have a copy of this at home; I'll try to remember to look for it while diggin' for the lead. ;->= The_Beast -Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad
From: Richard Kirke <richardkirke@h...>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:13:37 +0000
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
I'm about half-way through and in talks with Arty Conliffe about publication etc > From: "Andrew Martin" <Al.Bri@xtra.co.nz>
From: Mike.Elliott@b...
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:07:15 +0100
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
My original article on this subject appeared in the SFSFW journal Ragnarok.
The article can be found at
http://www.felixent.f9.co.uk/games/art26.html.
Is this the one you were thinking of Brian?
Mike
I found somebody's DS II WW II rules, printed them out. I thought they were
well thought out and realistic. It included rules for half-tracks (which
I had already been contemplating), as well as main guns. It also gave me some
ideasfor dealing with more primitive c3 capabilities. I wish I remembered the
address.
BrCB
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: "Richard Kirke" <richardkirke@hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:10:37 +0100
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
What is it you are planning to publish? A sort of SF version of Spearhead? Mike I'm about half-way through and in talks with Arty Conliffe about publication etc > From: "Andrew Martin" <Al.Bri@xtra.co.nz> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ************************************************************************ ** Privileged, confidential and/or copyright information may be contained in this e-mail. This e-mail is for the use only of the intended addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended addressee, you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way whatsoever. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software. Bull Information Systems Limited may monitor the content of e-mails sent and received via its network for the purposes of ensuring compliance with its policies and procedures. This message is subject to and does not create or vary any contractual relationship between Bull Information Systems Limited and you. Bull Information Systems Limited. Registered Office: Computer House, Great West Road, Brentford, Middlesex TW8 9DH. Registered in England. Registration Number: 2017873 Thank you.
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:24:27 +1300
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
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From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:33:45 -0700
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
The very same. You rock.
BrCB
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From: Richard Kirke <richardkirke@h...>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:33:51 +0000
Subject: Re: WWII DSII
Bill, > Well we're interested in lots of rules sets, but from what I've read Yeah, I suppose so, but the number of figures required are pretty similar and the mechanics are so nice, they are much more simple and quick play. Anyway, use HVCs and RFACs and that oughta give you a nice feeling game, but I find the "roll 1 D6" mechanism easier than the "opposed dice for hit/miss followed by chits for damage resolution" mechanism makes for a much quicker (or larger) game. Anyway, as I said I think there are some army lists etc on the web, use google or something