Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

7 posts ยท Sep 11 2002 to Sep 12 2002

From: Ted Arlauskas <ted@n...>

Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:11:08 -0700

Subject: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

> If you want to liven things up, I can post a link

John - Can you send me the link off-list?  I'd like
to give it a read if it's a credible source.

Thanks,

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:33:47 -0700

Subject: Re: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

That isn't the StrategyPage article is it?

The stuff I've sent John has a better provenance than that.

> Ted Arlauskas wrote:

> If you want to liven things up, I can post a link

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:30:47 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: Re: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

Ted Arlauskas schrieb:
> >If you want to liven things up, I can post a link

I guess John means this one:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_17/
articles/deatkine_arabs1.html

Seems quite credible, apparently the author has quite a bit of experienc in
Arab countries.

One point to keep in mind is that many of the problems he discusses are not
specifically Arab, but can also be found in other 3rd World countries, e.g. in
Africa, Latin America or the Balkans. Also, other countries in the past have
overcome similar problems and developed their economies, politics and military
forces.

Greetings Karl Heinz

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 05:01:07 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

> --- KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 05:55:35 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

> --- Michael Llaneza <maserati@earthlink.net> wrote:

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:56:42 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: Re: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

Michael Llaneza schrieb:
> That isn't the StrategyPage article is it ?

You mean this one:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20020909.asp

That one reads like a summary of the one here:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_17/articles/deatkine_
arabs1.html

And the strategypage.com article is dated 2.Sept.2002, whereas the other one
is from 1999.

Hardly a stellar moment for Internet journalism.

Greetings Karl Heinz

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:42:14 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Why Arabs Loose ... Was Re: Test

> On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

> Michael Llaneza schrieb:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_17/articles/deatkine_
arabs1.html

The Strategy Page version reads like a simplistic, frankly bigoted summary of
the actual article.

The real thing is a pretty good article, raising some good points while
avoiding the simplistic traps the SP summary gets bogged down in. It's well
worth reading.

> Hardly a stellar moment for Internet journalism.

The StratPage version? Agreed.