Just starting a new thread with a clearer title as the response on the
previous message was a bit dismal:-)
I just contacted Nic at Eureka (he is not on the list anymore). Basically, the
previous attempt failed because only 4 people actually committed to the second
batch of figures. Maybe they were too specialised, but I am willing to try
again.
We basically need to commit to sets of 4 variants of a figure for a total of
150 figures or AU$450.
My proposal is:
1. A prone Ghurka with different weapons/stuff. Preferably at least
one with a sniper rifle.
There are already several poses available for which it is easier to make
variants. So: 2. A set of Ghurka's with light weapons
3. A set of Ghurka's with heavy weapons (mini-gun as in predator
movie?) 4. A mix of 2. and 3.
Everything of course with the correct NAC/Ghurka weapons, whatever
these might be.
Personally I am interested in at most 3 copies of each figure, so this would
mean 12 figures per set. Tony Reid is interested as well.
Who is also interested? Suggestions as to what you would like to see are
welcome, as we need a consensus to get as many commitments as possible to make
this viable.
I first want to try this on the list before I try spamming the people who
bought into the original set.
Cheers,
Well I was one of the 4 who committed last time, and I'm still interested
especially in heavier weapons. I would be looking at about 4 copies of each
figure.
> Frits Kuijlman wrote:
..
Just to clarify things a bit. I am planning 25mm ghurkas in the club100, which
needs 150 figures, not 15mm figures in the club300, which needs 600 figures.
And no, I am not trying to confuse people here:-)
I went through all the email I got/forums I posted to and updated the
webpage a bit. Some people have committed, some are just interested, but it
seems we are sortoff halfway to the required number.
Another question to try to find out the feasability of 1 or 2 sets of ghurkas:
Would you commit to both a prone set and a heavy weapons variant set of the
current figures? If so, would you commit to a fixed number of figures
(independent of the number of sets), or to a fixed number of copies of each
figure(independent of the number of figures)?
> Another question to try to find out the feasability of 1 or 2 sets of
Um... probably, depending on the weapons chosen, etc.
> If so, would you commit to a fixed number of
no
or to a fixed number of
> copies of each figure(independent of the number of figures)?
possibly, depending on what variants are available, weapon choices, etc.
Do you mean a fixed *identical* number of copies of each figure? In other
words, if there are 2 sets (prone, heavy weapons) with 4 figures in each set,
do you want me to commit to, say, 4 of each figure (32 figure commitment
total)?
What if, for example, we want to get 3 of one, 5 of another, etc.?
(If you have a 4-figure set of prone guys, and they're all snipers...
I'll commit to ONE set... how many snipers does one need, really... but if
there
are multiple weapon-type choices, such as prone-with-rifle,
prone-with-SAW,
prone-sniper, prone-IAVR or possibly even prone-GMS/P... then I might
want more)
Right, it was late, and I probably wasn't clear enough:-)
The prone figures will all get different weapons. Only snipers is a bit silly,
and it would lead to almost no commitments at all.
You don't need to commit the same amount to different sets.
The main point I think I failed to make is: if we go for two sets (heavy
weapons variants of existing figures and a set of prone figures), will this
lessen the chance of any one set reaching the minimum limit because people
will be spreading their commitments over the two sets?
Hmmm,
What I want to do is add missile launchers to my existing 4 sections and have
a separate weapons section consisting of 4 missile launchers and 4 mortars. So
I'm not sure I'd want a prone set and heavy weapons, but I would definitely
like heavy weapons including prone (so probably about 8 sets missile
launchers) with an assumption of 2 man crews that's 16 figures, of course the
number 2 can be just about any figure or 3 men
for a mortar - I'd probably buy a complete mortar section say 4 tubes
each with 3 figures and a 3 to 4 man command section (16 figures).
Which is actually more figures than I committed to before.
> Christopher Downes-Ward wrote:
<snip> stuff about mortars and rocket launchers
The prone figures require a new sculpt, so they need to be a separate set of 4
figures.
The missile launchers can likely be a variant of an existing figure. If you
really want just lots of missile launchers, then this might be possible. I
vaguely remember Nic emailing the previous time that simple variants can be
listed singly and would just require a commitment of 50 figures.
I don't know about the mortar set, but I suspect this would require at least
one new sculpt, so this would probably go per set(mortar team). How is the NAC
mortar team done? One big sculpt, or separate figures and mortars? This is
important as the more NAC equipments can be recycled, the easier it would be
to get something like this done.
And just a side note(no criticism). I really like all the different ideas, but
most people don't need that many figures, so if we put too many ghurkas on the
club100 we run the risk that none will reach the mark.
Personally I would just get 3 of everything, but not everybody is a
megalomaniac:-)
I'll update the website again later this week with some final
proposals(including mortar team), post some more all over the place, and then
bounce it of Eureka.
Frits,
The problem I, and I suspect others have, is that I have a 4 section platoon
of Ghurkas and what I would like to do is fill in holes in the TO&E without
committing to the equivalent of another complete platoon,
that means adding support weapons to the infantry sections (L5 +
Observer with Binos, Missile Launcher + No2(SGA66 figure variant?)) x 4,
plus a weapons section of say 4 mortar teams (each of observer with
binos plus 1 or 2 crew(SGA66 figure variant?)) and 4 weapons teams (L5 +
Observer with Binos) - That's a lot of observers with binos!
IIRC the NAC mortar team is 1 mortar and 2 crew as three sculpts.
Chris
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> Christopher Downes-Ward wrote:
> that means adding support weapons to the infantry sections (L5 +
It is not my intention to have too many obervers. Or any other figure for that
matter. That would make the whole thing unattractive.
> IIRC the NAC mortar team is 1 mortar and 2 crew as three sculpts.
Ok, so the mortar crew could (with a bit of luck) be done as variants of
existing figures?
What about:
- mortar set: NAC mortar, 2 crew and 1 observer
- hvy weapons set: 4 different hvy weapons, no observer
- the prone set
If you just want to fill in some gaps in your current ghurka force and don't
want everything, which set would you prefer?
I want to avoid listing individual figures at Eureka, but I think this might
still be a possibility for variants of existing figures. However, this invites
'pick and choose' which might lead to nothing reaching the limit.
> -----Original Message-----
<snip>
> It is not my intention to have too many obervers. Or any other figure
Sorry I really meant I would take a lot of observers not that I wanted lots of
different observer variants
> > IIRC the NAC mortar team is 1 mortar and 2 crew as three sculpts.
Yup, I would have thought that the current kneeling figures (SGA66, SGA70)
could be used as the mortar crew with the L7A3 replaced by a mortar round and
the comms unit remodelled slightly to a "fire control" unit.
> What about:
I'd have 4 sets - I might go really wild and have 6, anyone know how
many mortars are in current light infantry mortar sections?
> - hvy weapons set: 4 different hvy weapons, no observer
I'd have 4 or 8 sets depending on the sets and I might buy some more existing
Ghurkas and use my bits box to create assistant gunners and the like
> - the prone set
Not really interested in itself, only as another way of getting hvy weapons
> If you just want to fill in some gaps in your current ghurka force and
See above
> I want to avoid listing individual figures at Eureka, but I think this
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> Yup, I would have thought that the current kneeling figures (SGA66,
that would be cool. simple to produce too...
the existing NAC mortar itself would be just fine.
> What about:
I could see buying 3 mortar sets, though I don't see the need for an observer
figure. If we could produce a mortar set by just having 2 mods of existing
figures (as Chris suggested) and including the *existing* NAC mortar, that
would be excellent. And then we're only looking at 2 new figures... (for that
set).
> - hvy weapons set: 4 different hvy weapons, no observer
This would be good also - depending on what weapons are actually
produced.
I converted my own GMS-armed models, and the shoulder-fired IAVR figure
would make for a *simple* GMS figure (simple in terms of converting an
existing model).
What other heavy weapons are being considered?
> - the prone set
I have to admit, I'm not much interested in prone riflemen per se - I'd
like to get my hands on a prone sniper or two (and would buy a set of 4
figures if that was how to get snipers) but all the rest of my Gurkhas are "up
and moving" and I don't really want to add prone figures to the existing
sections.
Frits - for those of us who managed to NOT bookmark, it would be helpful
if you reposted the website URL... thanks!
> Frits Kuijlman wrote:
Just a minor update I got from Nic at Eureka. If we want to list variants as
single figures these would need a limit of 50 figures, instead of 150 for 4
variants. I might do this for the observer, as enthousiasm for observers
doesn't
seem to be that great:-)