What is a 'Rotary Action' S.A.W.?

3 posts ยท Jul 2 1997 to Jul 2 1997

From: Bruce S. R. Lee <bsrlee@w...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:34:10 -0400

Subject: What is a 'Rotary Action' S.A.W.?

I have been giving a little thought to the Oceanic troops that are just being
put out, and the suggestion that the Saw carried by the squad gunner is a d8
fire power conventional Saw. With the small fire teams proposed
(3
rifle men @ 2 fp=d6, 1 saw gunner) you are going to have to get pretty close
when compared to other published toe's which seem to generally feature a fp
d12 for the squad plus a d10 or so Saw (perhaps I am being spoilt by the NSL &
FSE troops we usually play with).

Looking at the Oceanic Saw gunner I thought this might be in fact a gas
powered 'rotary action' gun, and the rear feed position suggests to me either
a Mauser or Dardick type of rotary action (see below).

There are about 4 major types of automatic weapon action that use a 'rotary'
action that I am aware of:

1) Gatling - several barrels each with its own bolt and feed system.
Gererally externally powered by hand or electric power - Dr. Gatling
patented the electric belt fed gun but never produced it - and there was
at least one patent for a rather peculiar gas operated conversion that
probably never saw light of day. In use today as the various, principally
US, 'Mini-guns' for 5.56 to 30 mm rounds.

2) Hotchkiss - several barrells with an interupted gear system, a fixed
extractor, rammer and firing stations. The barrells rotated, stopped and
fired, rotating 1 station where the empty was removed from one barrel, another
barrell was loaded and a shot fired. Usually chambered for large calibre
shells up to 40mm. Gatling always considered it an inferior attempt to copy
his gun.

3) Mauser - developed during WW2, similar to the Hotchkiss but used a
revolver cylinder of 5 chambers and a single barrell instead of multiple
barrells thus saving considerable weight. The gun was powered by a gas takeoff
and piston like a convetional MG which caused a cam plate to reciprocate,
powering the rammer and extractor and rotating the cylinder
Used in the German MG151 and MG151/20, also post war in the British 30mm
Aden cannon - still in service in the Harrier, and I think the current
23mm cannon in the Tornado also used the same system.

4) Dardick - used triangular rounds and a three finned rotor ( a bit
like a negative wankel rotary engine) with a linkless feed. This design
eliminated almost all reciprocating parts. Not a commercial success in small
arms, Dardick is apparently still doing work for the US Navy using the
triangular rounds for the next generation of anti missile autocannons. The
original war externally powered by a double action revolver type trigger, it
could also be electrically driven but there is no reason it could not be
powered by a gas piston off the barrell.

Any constructive comments, especially for Jon(GZG) would be appreciated.

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:27:59 -0400

Subject: Re: What is a 'Rotary Action' S.A.W.?

> I have been giving a little thought to the Oceanic troops that are just
[snip]

> Bruce S. R. Lee

The reference to "rotary" MGs in SGII is intended to be for Gatling type
miniguns - everyone loves those spinnin' barrels and masses of flying
lead.... :)
If you look closely at the NSL SAW you will see it has three tiny barrels.
Mind you, the Dardick concept sounds very interesting...

From: Owen Glover <oglover@b...>

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:13:08 -0400

Subject: RE: What is a 'Rotary Action' S.A.W.?

Below is Bruce's comments about the Fire Team firepower. Sorry, but the Fire
Team consists of 1 SAW and 2 Riflemen. These would be used as a DETACHMENT.
The Section Firepower is actually 7 x 2 =14 (d12) and 2 SAW @ d8. And of
course you can always fire one or two IAVR; the section carries about 6 of
these at d8 each PLUS the quality dice!!!!!!

I gave the OU section a LOT of careful thought based on a lot of years
experience in the Infantry and the result I think is pretty balanced. Remember
the OU PL HQ is not an 8 man fighting unit like other nations. 4 men with
rifles. They command.

> I have been giving a little thought to the Oceanic troops that

Hey, these are generic rules, bend it and see what shape it comes out.