> I've collected figures for Stargrunt and I've got platoon and company
I've only bought a few figures so far..one 6 man squad [1] each of NAC and
FSE. Plus an NSL squad I bought and painted for my Dad.
> Are you using "historical" camo patterns or colors? I've done the
Not really, although the NSL guys are historical-influenced. One thing:
I paint all my weapons black drybrushed with dark grey, as I assume all 2300
guns will be mostly plastic. Sometimes I paint GMS/Ps different colors
though, see below.
> 1. FSE
Light sand-yellow (Polly Scale Soviet Sand) with dark green body armor,
Tamiya Red Brown spots and flat black dots. Kit (packs, pouches etc.) and
facemasks I painted Tamiya German Grey (dark grey). Ral Partha Astral Blue
visors, black boots, and dark green GMS/Ps. Raw Umber oil paint wash.
> 2. NSL
Tamiya Field Grey (WWII Feldgrau) with Tamiya Flat Earth and Model Master
Pale Green spots. Pale Green drybrush and a black oil paint wash. GMS/Ps
are black.
> 3. NAC
Dark green (Polly Scale NATO Green) with Tamiya Khaki stripes (and kit) and
black armor. Hand mixed oil drybrush and black oil paint wash. Tamiya Khaki
GMS/Ps.
> I'm using all GZG figures mounted on heavily textured round
I textured a couple of my bases, as an experiment, using a mud mixture I use
in 1/35 scale armor modelling. It's a mixture of Elmer's type glue,
coffee grounds and brown acrylic paint (Tamiya Flat Earth in this case). Looks
pretty good.
> Perry
I've collected figures for Stargrunt and I've got platoon and company sized
units for a couple of units in the GZG universe. I'm curious as who is using
what figures. How do you have them painted up? Are you using "historical" camo
patterns or colors? I've done the following:
1. FSE Company in French Lizard pattern (circa 1960 Algeria) 2. NSL Panzer
Grenadiers in Waffen SS fall pattern (orange and brown) 3. NAC Royal Marines
in U.S. faded, heavily weathered olive drab 4. ESU in Soviet WWII Airborne
camo (light olive green with ameba shaped
blotches-I've used dark purple as opposed to the original pattern's dark
green)
I'm using all GZG figures mounted on heavily textured round slota-bases.
I have a number of Kryomech Nexus Marines which I might use as mercenary
types.
Haven't gotten around to painting my Pan-Africans or Pan-Islamics yet.
Any suggestions on neat "historical" camo patterns or uniform colors?
Perry
I paint my ESU troops in a standard Howard Hues (brand name) Soviet Green,
with dark leather details. It's that obnoxious not-quite-Olive-drab the
Soviets have used forever. Camo would be perfectly acceptable, but in my
world, this unit is a veteran colonial garrison unit - on the far edge
of the supply train, so stuff like nice uniforms are pretty hard to come by.
NAC is being done as as extension of USMC units - cammo all over, incl.
helmet. NSL - I have no idea, yet. They keep saying 'Feldgrau!
Feldgrau!' but I've painted so much gray stuff lately. A friend of mine
did some of his in a Martian Red, with gold metallic visors - looked
sharp!
But it was a little cheesy on a standard green cloth-table. I kept
wanting to say "hey, who brought the Blood Angels?" - aforementioned
friend *really* doesn't like GW. PAU & IF are being painted up as militia
'attachments' to the ESU troops. Similar uniforms, but less stuff. I have no
FSE, but a really good Osprey reference on the French Foreign Legion was
published recently - I'd go to that. PA is still up in the air - ESU
will
most likely have a drab green with drab grey lozenge/stripe cammo.
Basing: 1" metal washers glued to the base, built up with some spackle, dried,
painted, flocked. Looks good, a bit of work. As for other figs, I got lucky &
found 3 box sets of the Battletech 25mm minis and a handful of blister packs.
The blister assortments formed a mediocre merc platoon (similar uniforms, but
not by much). The boxes (2
Steiner Laser Rifle platoons, 1 Kurita conventional Assault Rifle platoon)
are as yet unpainted. The Steiners with their slim, high-tech weapons
may end up being FSE attachments to my ESU force (reinforced Company &
growing), and the Kuritans with the boxy rifles and grenade launchers will
be some sort of colonial militia, stiffened by the NAC light platoon -
opposition for the ESU.
Noah
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My colour schemes are as follows:
NSL panzergrenadiers: field grey base with dark green, earth brown and mustard
yellow camo pattern. Black gloves, belts, visors. Brown boots. Weapons are
mostly dark green and grey with some metallic parts.
NSL jaegers will probably be the same without the camo.
New Israelis: Black all over, lightly drybrushed with light grey. Gold visors.
Red flashes on shoulders. Metallic and grey weapons.
Japanese Mercs: Yellow with green armour. (!)
Denizen midtechs/Nexus marines/Grenadier troopers: orangey brown with
two tone green and brown camo pattern. Light Grey armour (except helmets which
are in camo patterns). Black equipment.
I base all the GZG and Denizen minis on 1p coins.
> in 1/35 scale armor modelling. It's a mixture of Elmer's type
Looks
> pretty good.
Ah the smell of fresh ground troops. Coffee grounds is a good suggestion for
earth mud but the question is serious do you get an odour or does smothering
it in PVA (AKA Elmer's it took me ages to suss this as its not a brand in the
UK) kill the smell?
> You wrote:
> what figures. How do you have them painted up?
OK, let me make a confession:
I paint all my SF ground stuff in one paint scheme. DSII and SGII both. It's a
dark grey (Used to use Testor's Panzer Grey) with black
'tigerstripes' and off-white (Testor's Camoflage Grey) spots. Why?
1)If you drop it on white tile floors, the dark grey shows up nicely.
2)If you drop it on dark blue carpeting, the white spots show up nicely.
3)It's completely ahistorical.
4)It's inspired by WWI 'dazzle' camoflage for naval vessels.
5)It doesn't matter anyway, because in the Real World, the Nea Rhomaioi use
'adaptive' paints which can be altered to fit terrain. I can't afford a set of
equipment painted in every paint scheme that might be
authorized--Woodland (Think NATO Tricolor), Jungle (less black, lighter
greens), Artic (white with white blotches), Desert, Steppe, Martian
Plain, Airless Vacuum, or whatever Science-fictional terrain we may
find it profitable to fight over.
The tanks, infantry, and Stargrunt uniforms all look like this. For SG
figs I add detail--web gear and weapons are all black, visors are RP's
"Steel" (Metallic not-quite-black), etc. Aircraft are a generic
gunship grey, with metallic gold Chi-Rhos as national insignia.
In a message dated 98-09-24 23:43:19 EDT, you write:
<< I've collected figures for Stargrunt and I've got platoon and company sized
units for a couple of units in the GZG universe. I'm curious as who is using
what figures. How do you have them painted up? Are you using "historical" camo
patterns or colors? I've done the following:
1. FSE Company in French Lizard pattern (circa 1960 Algeria) 2. NSL Panzer
Grenadiers in Waffen SS fall pattern (orange and brown)
> [quoted text omitted]
My NSL Forward Observation Team is painted in a very green flecktarn pattern.
Very effective against the edge of a lawn!
> I textured a couple of my bases, as an experiment, using a mud mixture
Dry cut tea (loose or from tea bags) also works well.
Mix PVA and mud-brown paint, and while still wet, cover
with a mix of tea with a small amount of "medium turf" ground foam (for a few
plants). Wait about 5 minutes, then turn the figure sideways and tap the base
to remove the excess "turf". After it's dry, paint over the "turf" with
thinned (3:1) PVA. You don't even need to drybrush, because the color of the
tea varies.
- Sam
My FSE troops are painted olive drab, with black, multi-coloured brown
and tan camoflage. Drybrushed/highlighted with the lightest colour in
the camo to bring out detail.
Weapons are basecoated black, then drybrushed dark purple with a very light
highlighting of silver. This gives them a completely synthetic "SF" feel
without resorting to the yellow and black GW paint schemes.
Bases are washers, with dyed spackle (no more white chips), sand/kitty
litter texture (painted) and flock. If the flock comes off for any reason,
there is dirt underneath the grass.
My FSE vehicles are airbrushed brown and green camo, with the skirts on the
GEVs battered, rusted and with bare metal showing through (a la Hammer's
Slammers).
For my budding NAC army, I was thinking black and grey camo - sort of
urban camo.
My PA will be painted in various garish and conspicuous colours, possibly
sporting art like WWII plane nose art.
All my figures are GZG with the notable exception of a GW Sisters of Battle
squad, which will be painted last.
> You wrote:
> I sort of fall into this belief category too. The chameleon or
Or you can paint them in 'garisson' colors, bright reds and blues and such,
because switching them to field schemes is simply a matter of having a talk
with the vehicle computor.
> John Atkinson wrote:
> 5)It doesn't matter anyway, because in the Real World, the Nea
I sort of fall into this belief category too. The chameleon or adaptive camo
patterns. SO I guess I should just paint everything in somne mottled greyish
brownish green mess.
Surprise, surprise but I use all my FT/SG/DS stuff as OU. Most
of the figures are right but there are a few ring ins in the fleet, heavy
tanks and artillery (I have some Battletech figures which are useful here.)
The FT Painting FAQ on the web has my ideas for my fleet (and you can now see
it on Tims Gallery Page). For everything else undercoat with black and then
dry brush with your base colour (I use a mid green). Then find the rattiest
and oldest brush you can. Get your next colour (I use a dark green) and
prepare the brush as if you were going to dry brush the figure. When you paint
the figures you use a stabbing motion. A single "stab" for each colour should
be enough for 6mm infantry. What this does is leave definate spots and
splotches of colour on the figure. I do this with 4 colours (dark green, light
green, dark brown, light brown) and the effect is a camo pattern without the
eyestrain and hand shakes. I've done this for all my DS and SG figures and
vehicles and it looks quite good if you finish off with a brown ink wash just
to bring out the detail. I have painted up some "Heavy Gear" for SG infantry
walkers and have done one entirely with spots as some Aboriginal art is. The
spost are Brown, Falxen Yello, Autumn Gold, Shamrock Green and Pine Green all
on a black undercoat with red hands. "Spotty" looks quite good if I do say so
myself and if a friend did suggest I paint another as "Super Ted".
Tony. twilko@ozemail.com.au
> At 23:30 24/09/98 EDT, you wrote:
Any
> suggestions on neat "historical" camo patterns or uniform colors?
> At 08:09 AM 9/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
I have been painting a lot of camo of late, and I am getting a little sick of
it. Largely because it takes me so damned long.... I do believe in variety,
though. For my painted figures, I have:
Kryomek Nexus S.W.A.T. figures painted dark blue, and drybrushed with a
(slightly) lighter blue. The S.W.A.T insignia on their chests is picked
out in gold.
GW Eldar painted black with orange and black tiger-striped helmets.
GW Marines painted in Desert Camo-Tan basecoat, drybushed lighter tan,
with splotches of dark gray and very light (almost white) tan. On top
of this are black dots, with a dot of sky blue placed off-center on
them, giving a sort of shadow effect. Looks good, but it takes a while to
paint them.
GW Genestealers/Tyrannids painted dark purple, and then drybrushed in
two shades of lighter purple. Claws and chitin plates are painted black,
drybrushed purple. This looks really good on the Armorcast Tyrannid tank that
I have.
Heavily modified (heads and weapons all replaced with Alternative Armies
"Levy Conversion Kit") GW OLD plastic Imperial guard, in basic black,
drybrushed with dark Grey.
ICE/Grenadier "Space Rangers" painted royal blue with white accents.
ZAP/Simtak Kyromek figures painted red, inked purple, drybrushed red.
Grenadier Future Warriors in olive drab, drybrushed lighter olive, panzer Gray
armor plates.
Fantasy Forge security troopers in dark Gray.
Denizen Federation Marines (and Fantasy Forge PA) in light gray, with
geometric patterns painted in black and filled in with blue/gray. Over
this are black squares filled in with (very) light gray. Took forever to
paint, but well worth it.
Leading Edge Future Warriors (their Terminator line) in yellow/brown,
with white and yellow splotches, and dark green squiggly lines. Nowhere
near as hideous as it sounds.
GZG NSL painted dark green, drybrushed a lighter dark green, splotched in
brown and tan.
GZG UN in white, inked gray and drybrushed white again, with baby blue
helmets.
Global Games U.N.E. troopers in medium green with Russian green shoulder
and knee plates.
Heartbreaker Legionaries in brown and olive green, with a great skin
color-stone gray drybrushed with pastel green. Looks nice and decayed.
Heartbreaker Cybertronic figs in Gray T-shirts with "Ocean Camo"
pants--blue/gray with dark blue tiger stripes, the stripes filled in
with a sky blue.
Everything else--Partha Kurtia Battletroops, LEG Lizard guys, various
Heartbreaker and Demonblade figs, Global Games Legions of Steel,
etc.--have only had samples done. I have to come up with schemes that I
like before I start painting them.