Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

16 posts ยท Feb 22 1999 to Mar 3 1999

From: jim clem <travmind@h...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:56:47 PST

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

This makes the most sense to me, and seems like it would capture the original
feel the best. Now if I only knew which box my Ogre bits were in to write up
full stats...

Someone up to the challange? Write up DS2 stats for the conventinal vechicals
and then use those stats to generate a piece by piece Ogre. Treat each
different system on the original as a different target with its own armor and
all.

From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:17:43 +1300

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> Jim Clem, B.S.E. <travmind@hotmail.com> wrote:
Have a look at my Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPV) rules here:
        http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/DSII/EW.HTM
The only extra points cost is the cost of the specialist team controlling the
vehicle.

From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:56:13 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> jim clem wrote:

From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:18:45 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> Nyrath the nearly wise wrote:

Some person with the initials W.C. Who ever could they mean?

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:20:04 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> jim clem wrote:

Yes, we know. Hail, Nyrath!
That's not at all tongue-in-cheek.  One of the attractions of this list,
to me, was that you were on it. I figured "Hey, the guy who did the OGRE
illustrations, the guy who does the 3D Starmap page, this guy is on the list."
Instant credibility.

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:49:14 -0800

Subject: RE: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

I've always been especially partial to the illo of the PA trooper getting
greased by the G.E.V. on the back of the gev booklet....

heh..

Michael Wikan Game Design Slave Zero Accolade, Inc.
http://www.slavezero.com
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rough men stand ready in the night to
visit violence on those who would do us harm."-George Orwell

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From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:49:40 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> Laserlight wrote:

From: John Leary <john_t_leary@y...>

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:46:52 -0800

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> Jon Davis wrote:
...Snip...JTL
> Some person with the initials W.C. Who ever could they mean?

W.C. traditionally stands for 'Water Closet'.

I suspect that may not be the answer you desired.

 :-)

Bye for now,

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:44:48 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> Nyrath the nearly wise wrote:

> Laserlight wrote:

I always loved the illos you did for WarpWar. (For those who don't know it was
a very simple strategic/diceless combat space empire-building game.
That was the
first wargame I bought, Ogre/Gev came next.)

From: jim clem <travmind@h...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:17:29 PST

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

Yes, I noticed that long ago, when I first found your web site. Very nice to
meet you sir! That illo was what first grabbed my attention, I've loved it
ever since.

JimC

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:56:13 -0500
From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@clark.net>
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres:  Plus a DSII question
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

> jim clem wrote:

Heh. I remember that. I've got a copy as well. The next time you look at your
copy of the rules, read the title page and see who did the artwork.

From: jim clem <travmind@h...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:17:56 PST

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

Great house rules, I'll be using some of them for the NCS army. However, the
drones I'm designing are autonomous, download the GPS coords of the target,
let it fly, sit back and watch the fireworks. The NCS army has learned the
hard way, that their human resources are hard to replace, so they have a
serious Reach out and Touch Someone attitude in combat. So lots of RPVs,
Drones, and Arty (both tube and missile). This brings up another question, is
it possible to have a signature of less than one?

From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:40:11 +1300

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> Jim Clem <travmind@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks!

> This brings up another question,
Kind of. Have a look at my rules for Fractional Vehicle Size Class and
Sub-Size One Vehicles at:
        http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/DSII/CA.HTM
Hope this helps!

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:06:08 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, jim clem wrote:

> Great house rules, I'll be using some of them for the NCS army.
The
> NCS army has learned the hard way, that their human resources are hard

> to replace, so they have a serious Reach out and Touch Someone

> This brings up another question, is it possible to have a signature of

> less than one?

Not really. What would you roll as a defence die for a -1 or 0 signature
vehicle? I'm afraid that d12/Sig 1 is the best that can be got under
vanilla DS2.
(You could House Rule some sort of supertech d20 uber-stealth, I
suppose, but that strikes me as a bit silly.)

I gather your Drones are actually combat vehicles? Interesting...the only
drones we've used are little Size 1 VTOL Artillery Spotters. Very, very
effective force multipliers. No guns, though. (to ref back to another
thread, team an Ogre up w/ a drone or two. Deadly!)

Brian (burger00@camosun.bc.ca)
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> Jim Clem, B.S.E.

From: j a c <journeyman2000@j...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:24:57 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:06:08 -0800 (PST) Brian Burger
> <burger00@camosun.bc.ca> writes:
==============

Yep, in a variety of types, hopefully I'll have some up on the web site this
week. RL really gets in your way sometimes eh? Anyway, some basic types;

Ghost: Arty support size 1 VTOL, arty spotter, with the added bonus of one
cluster of MAK DFO (for that added spice) cost 246

Vampire: Heavy combat drone size 2 Aerospace craft, fast and nimble, carries
two
clusters of sub-munitions, or a tac nuke, plus a size 1 HKP.  (even more
spice) cost 514

Wasp: Hunter Killer VTOL size 2, carries 5 (!) SLAM packs cost 244

The costs reflect the 2x modifier for autonomous vehicles. More to come soon.

From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:33:50 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> jim clem wrote:

I'm glad you liked it! I fear that I've gotten more notoriety for that
illustration I did in high school that

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:51:55 -0500

Subject: Re: Vulnerability of Ogres: Plus a DSII question

> jim clem wrote:

> This makes the most sense to me, and seems like it would capture the

I've had these rules up for a while for the Ogres themselves at:
http://members.xoom.com/rlyehable/ds2/ogre-ds2.html

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