Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

8 posts ยท Aug 29 2005 to Sep 7 2005

From: damosan@c...

Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:49:31 +0000

Subject: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

> That's scary. Cool, but scary.

I taught my fare share of those vehicle recog classes.

What's *really* scary is the number of troops you run into who don't
know the difference between a T-72 and an Abrams.

Or an Abrams and a M-109 SP Howitzer.  Or a Lav-25 and a BTR.  The list
goes on.

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:54:36 -0700

Subject: Re: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

Yikes. maybe the Army should recruit more nerds.

> On 8/29/05, damosan@comcast.net <damosan@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Oerjan Ariander <oerjan.ariander@t...>

Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:29:15 +0200

Subject: Re: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

> damosan wrote:

> What's *really* scary is the number of troops you run into who don't

> goes on.

As long as they can tell the difference between a LAV-25/BTR (with
wheels)
from an Abrams/M-109/T-72 (with tracks), they're a lot more competent at

vehicle recognition than most journalists...

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:06:56 -0500

Subject: Re: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

oerjan.ariander wrote on 08/29/2005 10:29:15 AM:

> As long as they can tell the difference between a LAV-25/BTR (with

> vehicle recognition than most journalists...

Jack of all, master of none, seems to be the problem with journalists. I

hear the same complaint about financial news commentary, though in both cases,
there's indication of improvement.

I also recently heard that the number of journalists killed in Iraq has
exceeded the number killed in two decades of the US in Viet Nam. Suggests they
are paying their dues...

Tomb wrote on 08/29/2005 03:49:31 PM:

> Very few games really capture this inability to correctly identify

Not without individual maps, whether GM or computer controlled.

Still, hearing some of the stories a couple of recent hires at work, just out
of the service, about experiences playing online Medal of Honor, this kind of
FOW along with how bright simply stepping into open spaces can be seems to be
a regular bit of amusement for them, and they were in strictly
support units. ;->=

The_Beast

From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:54:01 -0700

Subject: RE: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

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From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 09:30:09 -0500

Subject: Re: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

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> Evans <devans@nebraska.edu> wrote:
I
> hear the same complaint about financial news commentary, though in
Suggests
> they are paying their dues...

 Hang out with people who hate Westerners, thinking your ultra-liberal
credentials will protect you, and you might get a nasty surprise. But no,
based on the number of stories where I have had an opportunity to either be
present when it happened, or talk to Soldiers who were, the media is not in
any danger of acquiring a clue any time soon. CNN, for instance, broadcasts
nearly all their stories from the roof a hotel in the Green Zone. Safest place
in the country, and they are all dolled up in flack vests and helmets and
"here in the heart of Baghdad".

Dumb shits. Even the US GIs in the Green Zone are in shirt sleeves and boonie
caps.

From: Roger Books <books@m...>

Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:04:40 -0400

Subject: Re: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

What about some of the indies? Such as:

http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/

The site leaves me really impressed with the people who have been around the
block in the nasty places in Iraq.

Roger Books

> On 9/1/05, John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@gmail.com> wrote:

> > wheels)
Suggests
> > they are paying their dues...

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:42:57 +0200

Subject: Re: Vehicle Recognition: Re: [GZG] The dreaded Panzer Chaffee

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> On 9/6/05, Roger Books <roger.books@gmail.com> wrote:

> both