Veering [OT] Fundamentalists in general, was RE: [FH] ecofundamentalists was RE: [FH] World maps

4 posts ยท Nov 15 2002 to Nov 16 2002

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:34:17 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Veering [OT] Fundamentalists in general, was RE: [FH] ecofundamentalists was RE: [FH] World maps

--- "laserlight@quixnet.net" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
wrote:
> >Fundamentalists can be decidedly extreme regardless

True.

Fundamentalist is among the top ten most abused words in the English language
at this time.

"A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to
fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by
intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism."

I dislike referring to anyone as a fundamentalist. Islamic fundamentalism is
more or less the mainstream interpretation of that religion, so I save five
syllables by simply saying "Islam" or "Muslims". And
so-called Christian fundamentalists generally spout
not historical Christianity of the early Apostolic period, but a more recent
heretical variation.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:34:40 +0100

Subject: Re: Veering [OT] Fundamentalists in general, was RE: [FH] ecofundamentalists was RE: [FH] World maps

> John Atkinson wrote:

> Fundamentalist is among the top ten most abused words

I'm glad to say that I'm not abusing the word, then - thanks to the
"usually" and "often", this definition fits the eco-fundamentalists I'm
talking about perfectly :-) They certainly treat ecology like a
religion... including believing in Holy Scripts which are heavily biased
towards their particular point of view, and all that <g>

Later,

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:24:36 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: Veering [OT] Fundamentalists in general, was RE: [FH] ecofundamentalists was RE: [FH] World maps

> --- Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:

> >"A usually religious movement or point of view

Very true. Like I always say, Militant Atheism, Secular Humanism, and
Environmentalism are as much religions as Buddhism, Shinto, or Judaism. They
require you to accept on faith a cosmological view that is inherently
unprovable.

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:54:46 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: Veering [OT] Fundamentalists in general, was RE: [FH] ecofundamentalists was RE: [FH] World maps

> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, John Atkinson wrote:

> --- Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:

That's why I'm a Fundamentalist Agnostic. The whole damn thing's unprovable
and based on no data whatsoever! That goes for Athiests and
Diests both, but the God-botherers are noisier...

Off topic, but what the heck...