UNSC ships

Hello all,

I am looking to unload some UNSC ships to fund a puffing up of my NI fleet.
Anyone who is interested please email me off list.

Contact Tom Westbrook. He is probobly interested. Any ideas on the FCT ship
arrivals?

steve barosi <krimso@msn.com> wrote:Hello all,

I am looking to unload some UNSC ships to fund a puffing up of my NI fleet.
Anyone who is interested please email me off list.

Anyone got any advice on how to build these so they're solid? The
multi-parts on some of the bigger ships are a real nightmare. i keep on
wondering if I should drill and pin them.

Cheers,

> Anyone got any advice on how to build these so they're solid? The

That is what I did. My big UNSC ships all have a brass rod as a spine to keep
them solid. It wasn't easy to get the hole all the way through some of the
parts but I made it work. Now that I have a drillpress, it would be easier if
I had to do it again.

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:12:17 -0600, Dean Gundberg
> <Dean.Gundberg@noridian.com> wrote:

I haven't assembled any of the larger ships, my biggest one is the CVL. At the
same time however, I've just glued the boats together with some superglue from
Games Workshop (only decently priced product of theirs that actually
delivers!) and I've found them to be particularily sturdy models.

> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:12:17 -0600, Dean Gundberg

On our display stand ones (which admittedly don't get handled in games, but
they DO get vigorously shaken around in the back of the
van to and from every show!), there is no pinning at all - they are
assembled straight from the casting machine using a good thickish superglue.
That said, I am now very much an advocate of using
superglue accelerator - the aerosol stuff that you squirt sparingly
on to one part, put the glue on the other, bang 'em together and
ZAP!!, they're stuck solid - just like we all used to assume that
superglue was SUPPOSED to work when it was first introduced! <G> I put the new
NI ships together for the photos and displays with this stuff, and I'm now
wondering how I ever managed without it....

> >On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:12:17 -0600, Dean Gundberg
The
> >> > multi-parts on some of the bigger ships are a real nightmare. i

I don't pin them either. I use a 5 minute, 2 part epoxy to attach the pieces
one at a time. Sometimes it takes a couple of tries, but eventually they seem
to be tightly bonded. Getting them aligned correctly
though....

> On 4 Feb 2005, at 17:33, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> to and from every show!), there is no pinning at all - they are

> to one part, put the glue on the other, bang 'em together and ZAP!!,

Jon,

What's the brand and where do you get it from?

And thanks to everyone else who's responded to this question.

Cheers,

> On 4 Feb 2005, at 17:33, Ground Zero Games wrote:

Well, the glue is the TUFLOC (no relation!! <G>) brand that we sell at shows
(we buy it in bulk from a trade supplier), and the
accelerator is the same brand - a sample can that I was sent that
I've been using at the workshop. It's so good that I'll probably be ordering
some cans of the accelerator to sell alongside the glue. I believe there are
various other brands on the market that are
probably just as good - try a decent local model shop if you have one.

Jon (GZG)

> And thanks to everyone else who's responded to this question.

> Well, the glue is the TUFLOC (no relation!! <G>) brand that we sell at

In my own experience, CA accelerator tends to weaken the bond -- the
superglue is more "brittle" when it cures. I generally use it to tack things
in place, and then strengthen the bond with more glue afterwards.

This is with Zap-a-Gap brand CA glue and accelerator, so different
formulations may have different effects. One thing for certain: the fumes from
the Zap Accelerator could knock a buzzard off a dung heap at 30 paces.
I make damned sure to use the stuff in a very well-ventilated area.

A friend of mine couldn't use it at all; one whiff of the stuff would give
him an instant skull-splitting headache.

'course, it's been months since I've done any miniatures work. Living in
babyland now, I've been spending most of my "free" time trying to catch up on
my sleep. By now, my superglue has probably turned into solid masses.

> This is with Zap-a-Gap brand CA glue and

You also want to make sure that you wash your hands
well after using this product as well. Zap-a-Gap
accelerator (not sure about other brands) contains a small amount of cyanide
in its formula.

> You also want to make sure that you wash your hands

Given that it's cyanoacrylate, I'd expect it to have something like that; on
the other hand, given that superglue was originally developed as surgical
glue, I wouldn't expect it to be toxic in a topical application. Of course, it
will stick your skin together. Should be able to get an MSDS from the
manufacturer if needed.

--- "laserlight@quixnet.net" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
wrote:

> >You also want to make sure that you wash your hands

I know that the CA glue was designed to be in a surgical sense but I wasn't
aware that the accelerator was. My warning however was in regard to the use of
the accelerator I am not sure if the glue contains any. Also my warning was in
regards to ingestion rather then it being applied topicly. Actually I am not
even sure if cyanide will effect a human unless its ingested.

Ain't that the truth brother... Anyone else swear that a few more years of
this hobby and they'll have no more fingerprints? Then again, my superglue
uses aren't limited to just miniatures... Anyone need a fireplace for their
work space?

> --- "laserlight@quixnet.net" <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:

> Of course, it will stick your skin together. Should be able to get