UNSC SDN-X designs using Beth's EFSB Heavy Beams Systems conversions

3 posts ยท Nov 9 1999 to Nov 9 1999

From: BDShatswell@a...

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:46:44 EST

Subject: UNSC SDN-X designs using Beth's EFSB Heavy Beams Systems conversions

Hi gang!

Using Beth's heavy beams rules below, I designed a few variants of the UN
SDN-X and one of the SDN that I thought I would toss 'em out for you all
to take a gander. Please let me know what you all think.

If Armageddon Outfitters and I worked this out correctly, there should be
twenty mass unaccounted for. (Beth I assumed the HBPs were single arc.)

This accounts for one class 4 heavy beam capacitor (12 mass, 36 points) and
four F-arc projectors on the wings (8 mass, 24 points).

I wanted the UNSC ships to stand out. The heavy beams seemed appropriate for
the organization that designed the pulse torpedo. Going with the general flow
of things, the SDN loses two thrust and the cargo capacity of the
SDN-X.
I built all the variants with strong hulls. I couldn't see a reason why
not. This could reflect state-of-the-art construction and/or redundancy.
 I
wanted the ships to have staying power. If this ain't how to get it, clue me
in please. I made the inference that the UNSC oftentimes is geared toward
self-reliance--even when supported by large national fleets.  I don't
see one
of these running around alone unless it is running home (ala B-10 from
SFB, I can't remember the scenario details). I didn't give all the variants
advanced EW systems because I presumed the UNSC has dedicated EW cruisers.
Anyone have some ideas what those would look like?

Thanks,

Bill

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UN SDN-X
Hull Displacement 251
Point Cost 743 (+60 for HBS)
Unallocated Mass 20 (used by HBS) Ship Type Military
Hull Strength Strong (25/25/25/25)
Hull Armor 8 Streamlining None Thrust 4 FTL Capable Passive Sensors Active
Sensors Basic ECM None

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Fire Control System (4) PDS (6) ADFC (1) Fighter Bay (2) Empty Bay
Heavy Beam Capacitor class-4
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Beam / 2 FP F AP
Beam / 2 F FS AS
Beam / 2 FP F FS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Cargo Space H2 H2 H2 H2

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UN SDN-X
Hull Displacement 251
Point Cost 743 (+60 for HBS)
Unallocated Mass 20 (used by HBS) Ship Type Military
Hull Strength Strong (25/25/25/25)
Hull Armor 8 Streamlining None Thrust 4 FTL Capable Passive Sensors Active
Sensors Basic ECM None

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Fire Control System (4) PDS (6) ADFC (1)
Heavy Beam Capacitor class-4
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Beam / 2 FP F AP
Beam / 2 F FS AS
Beam / 2 FP F FS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Cargo Space H2 H2 H2 H2 SML (2) SM Magazine Cap: 12
(6 / 4 ER salvos)

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UN SDN-X
Hull Displacement 251
Point Cost 781 (+60 for HBS)
Unallocated Mass 20 (used by HBS) Ship Type Military
Hull Strength Strong (25/25/25/25)
Hull Armor 8 Streamlining None Thrust 4 FTL Capable Passive Sensors Active
Sensors Superior ECM Individual

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Fire Control System (4) PDS (6) ADFC (1)
Heavy Beam Capacitor class-4
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Beam / 2 FP F AP
Beam / 2 F FS AS
Beam / 2 FP F FS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Cargo Space H2 H2 H2 H2 SML (2) SM Magazine Cap: 8
(4 / 2 ER salvos)

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UN SDN Hull Displacement 170
Point Cost 554 (+60 for HBS)
Unallocated Mass 20 (used by HBS) Ship Type Military
Hull Strength Strong (17/17/17/17)
Hull Armor 8 Streamlining None Thrust 2 FTL Capable Passive Sensors Active
Sensors Superior ECM Individual

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Fire Control System (4) PDS (6) ADFC (1)
Heavy Beam Capacitor class-4
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Heavy Beam Projector / F
Beam / 2 FP F AP
Beam / 2 F FS AS
Beam / 2 FP F FS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
SML (2) SM Magazine Cap: 8
(4 / 2 ER salvos)

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In a message dated 11/07/1999 6:22:04 PM Central Standard Time,
> beth.fulton@marine.csiro.au writes:

> Heavy Beams

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 15:00:02 +1000

Subject: Re: UNSC SDN-X designs using Beth's EFSB Heavy Beams Systems conversions

G'day Bill,

> Please let me know what you all think.

I like the design premise (though I haven't checked that your numbers add up,
sorry)

> If Armageddon Outfitters and I worked this out correctly, there should

Yep that's right.

> I wanted the UNSC ships to stand out.

A common feeling;)

> I built all the variants with strong hulls. I couldn't see a reason

Another option would be to drop your hull down to average, but put on as many
armour as the difference in hull boxes between an average and strong hulls or
use double screens.

Hope that helps

Beth

From: BDShatswell@a...

Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:30:13 EST

Subject: Re: UNSC SDN-X designs using Beth's EFSB Heavy Beams Systems conversions

Hi Beth!

Thanks for the input!  I was second-guessing myself last night when I
went to bed about that very thing. I didn't put shields on the ships, and I
think I should have. I also considered dropping two of the HB projectors for
Class 3 beams. I think I will design another set with some structural changes
and post them later today.

Bill