UNSC in Full Thrust

I would be interested in hearing comments from people who play UNSC fleets on
ship designs and tactics. How about it guys, time for the Universe's

Saviors to make a noise and kick everyone into line!

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> "Simon Brodie" <mr_fingle@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I would be interested in hearing comments from people who play UNSC
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Well, I don't play them _yet_ but I've got some UNSC figures under order
from GZG, and I've been thinking how to design stats to go with them.

The SFSFWFT website at: http://www.homestead.com/sfsfwft/
has an old Ragnarok article about the UNSC in its sci-fi wargames
section - including some (pre-Fleet Book and definately pre-GZG UNSC
figures) ship designs.

In my view, consider the UNSC's twin related roles as peacekeeper and defence
of the core worlds (or the solar system?), for political reasons many ships
and tactics may be more geared towards 'removing the
potential for aggression' rather than just destroying other ships - the
idea being that member states will whine (and maybe withold dues) less if you
simply disable their ships rather than causing massive crew casulties.

So many UNSC ships will carry 'disabling' weapons, such as Needle Beams, EMP
missiles, EMP Salvo missiles (see previos post from me on these),
maybe even a Mimbari-style EMP generator (if I can derive a reasonable
cost/mass for the thing!).

The article descibes the UNSC fleet as being a joint project of the
major powers (the politics must be excruciating) - drives by NAC,
weapons by FSE, hull by NSL - imagine the result :-)

In my more cynical moods I envision the Tufflyverse UNSC as being: 1) a front
organisation for John Cribbin's Space Illuminati
2) peacekeepers - as in Farscape :-)

The UNSC also seems to do quite a bit of deep space exploration - what
have they found out there?

Hope this lot helps,

Yes, I would like to see some historical fill for the UNSC.

One thought that I've been knocking arround is a UNSC that is somewhat
seperated from the UN. Sort of a division of powers idea.

The collapse of the US in 2049 creates a power-vacuum. A general power
grab begins. Nations do not want to send thier troups into combat under the
command of officers of another country. So the UN peacekeeping forces evolve
into an all volunteer, professional military force. To further ensure the
independance of this force, its memebers are granted "citizen of the world"
status. This grants them all the rights of a citizen of any country they are
in (as long as that country is a member of the UN). This also freed up
troops for the power-blocks to expand and consolidate territory. At this
time, the UN began to provide fee-based escort service for independant
shipping. In 2076, when the AC launches the first Combat Starship, the UN Sees
the writting on the wall and begins to expand thier military to enable them to
provide peacekeeping within the Solar System and the Core Worlds. This is
done, in part, through a "scientific exploration" justification. The UN starts
to build starships for scientific exploration of space. This, in reality, was
mostly a front to allow them to gain experience starship building,
maneuvering, and combat as well as ground combat on other planets.
The FSE/NSL war of 2101-2103 sees the UN peacekeeping forces expand into
space (with the approval and urging of the AC and ESU) to protect shipping and
citizens within the inner colonies. When the First Solar war breaks out in
2137, the UN tries to continue to protect shipping, but is continually
frustraited by political threats by both the NAC and the ESU. In 2143, the UN
recoginizing the political pressure will not allow peacekeeping to continue,
creates the UNSC as an independant force charged with suppressing conflict in
the Core Systems. For funding, it applies tarrifs to all traffic within the
Core systems. While each of the powers resents it, they see the advantage of
protecting thier capitals and vital manufacturing (moving the warfare out to
the less important colonies).

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Brian Bell bkb@beol.net
http://members.xoom.com/rlyehlable/ft/

There's a UNSC entry in the GZGPedia, along a potential link to a website that
I hope to (eventually!) put together about the UNSC.

G'day Charles,

> The UNSC also seems to do quite a bit of deep space exploration - what

We'll if you followed the UNSC example and employed a few IAS
scientists/navigators/cooks on you next deep space exploration we could
give you a bit of a taste....;)

Cheers

Beth

> >The UNSC also seems to do quite a bit of deep space exploration -

Beth wrote
> G'day Charles,

Sounds delicious! Er...what's that purple-orange stuff on my plate ?

Greetings Karl Heinz

> The UNSC also seems to do quite a bit of deep

They have gone where no man has gone before, and they haven't come back....

Bye for now,

Va'Si'ah (large rover mind => [I'll let you guess])

Neath Southern Skies -http://home.pacific.net.au/~southernskies/
[Pirates] Dame Captain Washalot
[NPJB] Absorbent Sponge Sheesh'Ka'Baab

> -----Original Message-----

From: Charles Stanley Taylor <charles.taylor@cableol.co.uk>

> The article descibes the UNSC fleet as being a joint project of the

Isn't there an old saw about seeking the ideal man? Something like: I wanted
him to have the manners of an englishman, the efficiency of a
German, the culinary skills of a frenchman and the love-making ability
of an Itallian. He ended up with French manners, Itallian efficiency, English
cooking skills
and German love-making ability.

> >

> Va'Si'ah (large rover mind => [I'll let you guess])

Sponge Sheesh'Ka'Baab, eh? That's fine. I was fearing it was similar
to the delicacy to which I was invited my Korean in-laws:

Fresh (as in right at the quay-side) octopus salad in red-hot chili
sauce. The chopped-up tentacles were still wiggling on the plate. I
managed to eat one piece and keep it down.

The fried silkworms in soy sauce were nice, though.

Greetings Karl Heinz

> > >The UNSC also seems to do quite a bit of deep space exploration -

AEBrain muttered:
> Mainly, a number of OU navigation beacons and survey markers...

  Some of which--the older ones--look very much like AE survey markers.
The main distinguishing point is that AE buoys have markings in Russian as
well as English, while on the "OU" bouys, the Russian has been hastily painted
over. I mean, "OU bouys have no Russian markings." That's all been resolved,
now, and we expect that UNSC "explorers"
(sic)
will no longer find any reason for confusion between OU and AE markers. And
we're not going to mention Sinbad and its moons. Fortunately, the OU
ambassador is not one of those petty individuals who drags up irrelevant
regrettable-but-minor misunderstandings dredged from historical trivia
files.

John X ("X the Unknown") Crimmins, of the Ancient and Illuminated Order of
Seers of Bavaria, murmured.
> And yeah, when I get myself some UN ships (and I *WILL* get some

That's good, they absorb more wavelengths that way. You paint'em
flat black, we'll paint them targeting-laser green shortly... :-)

> At 06:45 PM 7/27/00 +0100, you wrote:

> At 11:08 PM 8/7/00 -0400, you wrote:

What, you think that they'll be going into *combat*? No, no...they'll be too
busy mutilating space cattle. It's amazing how much precision you can get with
a class 3 battery when you are using it on a creature seven miles long.

> > John X ("X the Unknown") Crimmins, of the Ancient and

A UN-hating Alarishi secessionist--that description qualifies as
an unnecessarily repetitive surplusage of redundancy--growled:
> >That's good, they absorb more wavelengths that way. You
:-)

John chortled:
> What, you think that they'll be going into *combat*? No,

I imagine they're convenient for making crop circles too?