The sands of Mars and the gray shores of Luna: 1/300 scale Stargrunt???

5 posts ยท Aug 19 1999 to Aug 19 1999

From: Scott Case <tgunner@h...>

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:50:08 PDT

Subject: The sands of Mars and the gray shores of Luna: 1/300 scale Stargrunt???

> Have any of you checked out his Fifth Foreign Legion series? Very >well

> done,

I agree! It lends itself more to the Stargrunt side than DS II.

I'm still thinking over the Sands of Mars stuff and am wondering: Has anyone
tried to play Stargrunt with 1:300 scale minis? Stargrunt's normal scale is
just a tad small to run a campaign like Sands of Mars (the book has too many
vehicles to be cheap to play, but not ENOUGH of them for DSII). But on the
other hand it (SGII) has the right amount of detail for what I want to do.

> BTW:

http://users.sgi.net/~whkeith/index.html
> Thanks,

From: John Crimmins <johncrim@v...>

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:58:59 -0400

Subject: Re: The sands of Mars and the gray shores of Luna: 1/300 scale Stargrunt???

> At 07:50 PM 8/18/99 PDT, you wrote:

I know that someone else on the list has -- Alan Goodall, I think? --
but it's an idea that I've been playing with as well. What I was thinking
about was painting the figures as normal, and then attaching them to a small
washer. This will give them more weight, and provides a base that a
magnet will cling to.  The washer is color-coded to reflect the type of
figure (black for a trooper, silver or gold for an officer, red for heavy
weapon, white for medic) and to make it more difficult to lose them on the
board. A large enough base would allow you to paint the quality and experience
of the figure right on. And you could use fridge magnets (the flexible kind)
to make it easier to move them as a unit.

It'd be a damned easy force to paint up, methinks. That's a pretty good
recommendation right there, in my opinion.

From: Scott Case <tgunner@h...>

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:34:58 PDT

Subject: Re: The sands of Mars and the gray shores of Luna: 1/300 scale Stargrunt???

> I know that someone else on the list has -- Alan Goodall, I think?
-->but
> it's an idea that I've been playing with as well. What I was >thinking

> about was painting the figures as normal, and then >attaching them to a

> small washer. This will give them more weight, >and provides a base

Sounds like a really good idea:) Like everyone else, my mini force is a

bizarre mix of miniatures, but they come from three primary sources: GZG

(CMD), MicroArmour, and Ral Partha. My 1/300 (roughly) scale infantry
are from Ral Partha's BattleTech line (Davion and Kurita infantry). These
troops are pretty large (the are damn right huge when marching into battle
with my
1/285 scale modern MBTs). To me, these guys have enough detail to look
cool
all on their own, plus the 1/300 scale vehicles are pretty big too... so
put them together and you have minis that are large enough to SEE (which is
the fun of 25mm gaming), but still small enough to fight battles that are too
large for 25mm StarGrunt (and yet just too small for Dirt Side). Not to
mention that in Luna Marine infantry units were getting into fire fights at
ranges exceeding 1500 meters (gotta love the moon: no atmosphere- tons
of LOS). That scale alone (to me) short circuits the 25mm scale of Star Grunt

> It'd be a damned easy force to paint up, methinks. That's a pretty

Couldn't agree with you more! 25mm looks lovely once you finish painting
it-
but painting 100+ infantry figures and 10-15 vehicles!! (assuming I find

PROPER 25mm vehicles in the first place)... It would only take me a few
hours to paint up such a force for 1/300 minis (and have a much greater
pool of vehicles to pick from), compared to a couple of weeks (tons of hours
for me) needed to paint up the 25mm (not to mention a nice chunk of change for
the minis)...

1/300 does have certain appeals :)

From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:19:22 -0400

Subject: Re: The sands of Mars and the gray shores of Luna: 1/300 scale Stargrunt???

> Scott Case wrote:

While I haven't actually played with them yet, I've got a full mechanized FSE
platoon painted and a NSL platoon on the way.

I mounted each figure on a 6mm washer (non magnetic, I'm afraid, but I don't
store my figures like that anyway). The figures are detailed
enough to make out what each figure is (rifleman/SAW/GMS) and I painted
the commanders headgear light blue to help them stand out. I also made a few
modifications (prone sniper, ECM tech, spotter, Medic) for some specialist
teams.

I decided to go with 6mm for two reasons:

1) I paint S L O W L Y. It would take me years to finish a 25mm platoon. 2)
I'm kind of anal about the ground scale matching figure scale. It's especially
annoying in SGII games when you have a tank that looks like it could shoot
OVER a mountain.

Anyway, I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. By next GenCon I'll
have the NSL finished and at least one of my games will be in that
scale...

Tom

From: Los <los@c...>

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:10:08 -0700

Subject: Re: The sands of Mars and the gray shores of Luna: 1/300 scale Stargrunt???

> Thomas Pope wrote:

> Scott Case wrote:
Has anyone
> > tried to play Stargrunt with 1:300 scale minis?

Actually I have and it's nice for large actions. I have mounted two platoons
of GW Epic 40k space marines on small washers (Maybe a.5") and organized them
into a single SST (book) Mobile Infantry Company. Then I bought a few gross of
the small plastic ants and a gross of the big plastic spiders and developed a
variant of SG2 for SST. The variant actually combines parts of SG2 and the
Avalon Hill Game (the Arachnid has to plot a tunnel complex) Kurt and I first
came up with this at
GZG-ECC II and I've had a few subsequent games with my wife to work it
out further.

Anyway, I digress. One minor issue about SG2 is the ground scale vs figure
scale which actually makes the figures the size of huge battlemechs. (FMA
scale at 2m per inch is more in line). So I like the way the 6mm guys sit on
the field. Gives a sense of true space. (Note I prefer 6mm Napoleanics and SYW
to 15mm too)

At the time we did this the GZG dirtside PA troops were not yet available.
Those guys look great and would be just fine for SG2 at that level. So are
Battlemech infantry, which are a little bit bigger (maybe 8mm) and of course
clan elementals make good PA.

Hope that helps...