SV: [SG2] You'll never take me alive,... [OT]

3 posts ยท Sep 23 1998 to Sep 24 1998

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:48:19 +0200

Subject: Re: SV: [SG2] You'll never take me alive,... [OT]

> Mikko wrote:

> > criminals used assault guns so far this year; there was an...
incident
> > some years back when a madman took an AK-4 and fired straight into a

The latest massacre, at Stureplan in Stockholm, was *not* done by an army
officer, no. That one was a well known criminal and drug dealer IIRC. But
you're right - I forgot about the previous massacre.

> > the MC gangs in

Exactly. But where the criminals get their weapons isn't very important
-
what *is* important is that the weapons are available, and get used. Not that
often, but, well... far too often. Even once would be far too often.

> > Don't try telling me those crimes are myths. Criminals, at least in

I fully agree. The original statement, however, was something like
"...criminals use all kinds of weapons from popguns to assault rifles."
*This* is what John A. called a "myth" - or at least what I percieved
him
calling a myth - and it is what I (strongly) disagree with. The entire
spectrum exists.

Regards,

From: Mikko Kurki-Suonio <maxxon@s...>

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:06:18 +0300 (EEST)

Subject: Re: SV: [SG2] You'll never take me alive,... [OT]

> On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Oerjan Ohlson wrote:

> Exactly. But where the criminals get their weapons isn't very
Not
> that often, but, well... far too often. Even once would be far too

Well, as a shooter, I think it is. Because the typical politician
knee-jerk reaction to high profile cases like this is to propose more
gun control laws.

> I fully agree. The original statement, however, was something like

Agreed. I'm not going to second-guess what he meant...

From: John Leary <john_t_leary@y...>

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:43:49 -0700

Subject: Re: SV: [SG2] You'll never take me alive,... [OT]

> Oerjan Ohlson wrote:

While I must agree that a 'wide spectrum' of weapons exist in the hands of
criminals, (including the nut case with the tank south of