> noah wrote:
> kwalsh writes:
> the idea of using a Trident sub as an SDB is almost appealing, you
> Not that much of a stretch. Given an efficient, >powerful spacedrive
sealed against positive pressure - the ocean is trying to crush you.
spacecraft are sealed against negative pressure - space is trying to
tear you apart.
> lots of space to work with.
depends on scale. more than a GZG destroyer, not more than a star
wars/honor harrison/star trek one.
> If >you rip out the
pretty bloody scary.
anyway, isn't this basically the plot of macross? an earth submarine carrier
gets flipped halfway across the solar system by a malfunctioning alien warp
drive?
> tom.anderson@altavista.net wrote:
spacecraft are sealed against negative pressure - space is trying to
tear you apart.
It still always seemed to me that it wouldn't be that difficult to retrofit a
sub. After all, the negative pressure of vacuum (1 atmosphere, unless you're
being very strange) is nothing compared to the kind of pressure a modern sub
is designed to keep out.
> On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 tom.anderson@altavista.net wrote:
> anyway, isn't this basically the plot of macross? an earth submarine
Erm, not quite. The SDF-1 was always a spaceship. It took two subs with
when the drive malfunctioned -- these subs were grafted onto SDF-1
itself (i.e. they didn't get their own drives etc.). And Pluto is pretty much
all
the way across the solar system ;-)
> Mikko Kurki-Suonio wrote:
I thought one was a supercarrier, and the other (the DAEDELUS, I think) was an
amphibious assault ship.
> Jonathan Jarrard wrote:
They were both referred to as "semi-submersible" ships in the
perfect manuels (maybe the carrier didn't have the "semi" in front of it.).
OTH, neither ship was ever shown underwater, and the carrier would have made a
lousy sub in any case. The implication was that this was
acceptable, since they were anti-alien weapons, and the submersible
aspect of the ship was just to allow them to mover around when the enemy held
orbital superiority. Obviously, the designers didn't realize just how much
orbital superiority the bad guys were going to have:)
> Erm, not quite. The SDF-1 was always a spaceship. It took two subs
> From Terra to Pluto is about halfway. From Terra to the point in
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Jonathan Jarrard wrote:
> I thought one was a supercarrier, and the other (the DAEDELUS, I
> Mikko Kurki-Suonio wrote:
> > carrier gets flipped halfway across the solar system by a
Grafted? Sorta... the SDF (or Macross, depends on where you're from:) was
suppost to 'dock' with space cruisers of the A.R.M.D. class (or Armor in the
U.S.). Since none of those ships were around, the Macross hooked up with what
it
could (the two sub/carriers).
The movie (Remember Love?) kinda twisted things around in the story, so there
you get to see the Macross hooked up with the A.R.M.D. carriers (and you see
them again in Macross II).
> Charles Gray wrote:
Cool! So I guess the Daedelus really was an AMPHIBIOUS assault ship.:) The
things I miss just because I can't read Japanese...