Snow

Okay, I'll bite. What white powder is used on hills as flock, and on trees, as
snow? I assume cocaine would be far too expensive and illegal to
use...
so what could it be? Care to shed some light, those who might know? And how to
best adhere it to conifer type trees? Spray (blech) adhesive? Hairspray?

I await the wisdom of the list body (as in the old ST episode with Landru...
"Are you of the body?").

> "Thomas.Barclay" wrote:
And how
> to best adhere it to conifer type trees? Spray (blech) adhesive?
Hairspray?

Don't they make stuff like this for this purpose (snow-covered
landscapes) at craft shops?

Mk

> Thomas.Barclay wrote:
And how
> to best adhere it to conifer type trees? Spray (blech) adhesive?
Hairspray?

Three suggestions 1) cornstarch 2) powdered sugar 3) Talcum powder (the most
likely)

Bye for now,

I would use white Fleck-Stone....

> -----Original Message-----
And
> how

If you can find a store that still has some of it's Winter Holiday supplies,
spray cans of snow should work quite well.

> --- Mike Wikan <mwikan@us.infogrames.com> wrote:

> "Thomas.Barclay" wrote:
And how
> to best adhere it to conifer type trees? Spray (blech) adhesive?
Hairspray?
> I await the wisdom of the list body (as in the old ST episode with

Woodland Scenics makes a snow product (SN140 SOFT FLAKE). I don't know how
good it is and have only seen it on their web site.
http://www.woodlandscenics.com/

Tim

I haven't used it for a while, but we used to get a Christmas decoration; a
white spray on podwer that dried hard, was meant for putting "snow" on
christmas trees and such....not sure where you'd get it over there?

Owen

> "Thomas.Barclay" wrote:

The best gaming 'snow' I've seen at a demo' game involved tipping mounds of
flour and sugar on the table (yes, really). They even went to the lengths of
using brown sugar to represent churned up mud tracks.

Mmmm... edible scenery...

> "Thomas.Barclay" wrote:

> Okay, I'll bite. What white powder is used on hills as flock, and on
And how
> to best adhere it to conifer type trees? Spray (blech) adhesive?
Hairspray?
> I await the wisdom of the list body (as in the old ST episode with

> Thomas.Barclay wrote:
And how
> to best adhere it to conifer type trees? Spray (blech) adhesive?
Hairspray?
> Three suggestions

If you want talc in bulk for something like this, don't buy it from the
chemist (drugstore to you Yanks <grin>) - get it from a glassfibre
supplier; it is what we use as a filler in polyester resin castings, and goes
under various names including Microdol, Norwegian Talc, Calcium carbonate etc.
It's non-perfumed, and costs about 10 UKP for 25Kg! Like bathroom talc,
it get EVERYWHERE, so tell your players not to breathe too hard over the
table.....

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> If you want talc in bulk for something like this, don't buy it from

I'm just picturing the look of the gaming room after that much talc....
...though on a hot day, the players might get some benefit from it. <grin>

The good thing about talc is that it won't attract ants or other vermin.
 The bad
thing about it is that it won't necessarily stay where you want it. One good
breeze.......it would make a good blizzard effect though.

> Ground Zero Games wrote:
<grin>

Ah, the delicate odour of unwashed gamer wafting in the breeze......
;-)

"I love the smell of wargame shows in the morning - smells
like.....profits!!"

<BIG GRIN>

Jon (GZG)
> The good thing about talc is that it won't attract ants or other
One good
> breeze.... ...it would make a good blizzard effect though.

On a very slightly serious note, I guess maybe you could lightly damp it down
with one of those houseplant water sprayer bottles? Wouldn't like to
think about the clear-up afterward, though.... ;-)
> --

The snow flock (used for railway modelling) and christmas decoration sprays I
have seen all look very shiny and frosty, which is how snow looks close up but
not from any distance. The best snowcovered miniature terrains I have seen
have all been painted, not flocked. Use some fine filler or plaster or
somesuch to form the snowdrifts. Paint it white with a touch of blue, with
more blue in the shadows. This of course only works if you want a fully snow
covered landscape, where the ground doesn't show through.

> It's non-perfumed, and costs about 10 UKP for 25Kg! Like

... ie, don't bring out those newly painted Gentlemen's Collectibles.

Somewhere in Future History, I plan to make terrain for Alarish and associated
moons and planetoids. I'm thinking to take a layer of foam, make various size
craters, including one
large one, using a spray propellant or knife (_I_ know how to
use a razor safely); paint a fairly dark reddish grey (to simulate low albedo
dust under light from M star and brown dwarf). Then put some powder (light
grey) in the bottom of the large crater, paint the surrounding area with
thinned white glue, and splash the powder, probably with a hair dryer directly
above, to get a "ray" effect.

(We'll do this outdoors, of course, so I don't have to clean dust off the
china.)

Has anyone tried this or anything similar? If not, when
someone does try it--which will undoubtedly be before I get to
it--please let me know the results.

> Jon T. wrote:

> I'm just picturing the look of the gaming room after that much
;-)
> "I love the smell of wargame shows in the morning - smells

I thought money doesn't smell? ;-)

> >"I love the smell of wargame shows in the morning - smells

That would depend on who's pocket it has been and for how long. There are some
instances where I would turn down money.

Woodland Scenics makes great "snow", available in most model railroad shops.
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Re: The Woodlands scenics snow. We used it for our "Elkhorn Tavern" game at
FALL IN last November and it's an excellent product.
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That is, if you have the tme to put into that much painting. But if you want
flocking as a quick solution, nd don't like the gleam, why not just give it
a once-over with Dullcote or some similar matte lacquer?

Brian B

----Original Message Follows----
From: Henrix <henrix@pp.sbbs.se>
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: Snow
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 02:39:01 +0100

The snow flock (used for railway modelling) and christmas decoration sprays I
have seen all look very shiny and frosty, which is how snow looks close up but
not from any distance. The best snowcovered miniature terrains I have seen
have all been painted, not flocked. Use some fine filler or plaster or
somesuch to form the snowdrifts. Paint it white with a touch of blue, with
more blue in the shadows. This of course only works if you want a fully snow
covered landscape, where the ground doesn't show through.

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> >I'm just picturing the look of the gaming room after that much
<grin>
> Ah, the delicate odour of unwashed gamer wafting in the breeze......
;-)
> "I love the smell of wargame shows in the morning - smells

<grin>

> >The good thing about talc is that it won't attract ants or other
One good
> >breeze.... ...it would make a good blizzard effect though.

That's not snow, it's slush. That would make for a hard game since all the
troupers would complain about it getting into their boots. <grin>

You could always use laundry detergent. It's generally heavy enough to stay
put and clean up is easy (if a bit foamy). <grin>

Warming do not use laundry detergent. It eats some paints and plastics and has
some other nasty side problems like allergies. Then again we can put figure
and gamers in full MOPP. Andy

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