SHotguns!

Quoth Scott Saylo:

The squad "Thump-gunner" (M-79 single shot breech loading 40mm grenade
launcher) often carried a 12 gauge pump This was because the M 79 was a truly
awful self-defense weapon and the shotgun was far preferred over the
.45 auto pistol.

** I'd assume he didn't have 40mm Cannister. That'd be pretty good
self-defence round.... for at least one blast.

Someone pointed (Ken) out that many problems with firearms are ammo. I'd have
to agree. Military rounds tend to have (if I'm not wrong....)
thicker casing walls and load higher powder loads - not entirely for
range or effect - but rather to work a weapon that has good dirty our
fouled in the field or from a lot of firing. They have controllable gas
systems that let you adjust them so they'd work the action even when dirty (to
a point).

I've seen a broken firing pin once, I've seen a few cartridges torn in half by
ejectors, I've seen triple feeds.... (that was a pain to clear) and I've seen
actions just jam open...

As an aside - for you Americans - people keep talking about loading 30
rounds into M-16 mags. Up here our rifle team guys load 28 rounds to
ensure better feeding. Is it the fact we Canucks re-use the disposable
mags?

In a message dated 7/15/99 10:04:49 AM EST, Thomas.Barclay@sofkin.ca
writes:

<< As an aside - for you Americans - people keep talking about loading
30
 rounds into M-16 mags. Up here our rifle team guys load 28 rounds to
 ensure better feeding. Is it the fact we Canucks re-use the disposable
mags? >>

probably! But it is not unusual for military practice to underload magazines
as a general rule. It avoid overstressing the feed spring at the bottom of the
magazine. If that breaks, you're up the creek witout a canoe, until you change
magazines

Greetings!

> On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Thomas Barclay wrote:

> I've seen a broken firing pin once, I've seen a few cartridges torn in

<shudder>
 :)

> As an aside - for you Americans - people keep talking about loading 30

That makes sense. A big problem with feeding is the quality of
the spring in the mag.  It may be the Canuck propensity for re-using
*disposable* mags <g>, or it may just be a good idea.

One of the recent articles in one of the gun journals had a good analysis on
mags and capacity, focusing on police use. They recommended *low* capacity,
expensive mags as they did not jam or misfeed anywhere *near* the level that
cheap high capacity mags did. Some of the cheap high cap 9mm mags actually
FELL APART during some of the tests.:(

Laterish!

        Ken