OK, I've integrated the comments of the last few days to produce a new and
improved listing...
Superpowers:
New Anglian Confederation (NAC) - Self-Design
Eurasian Solar Union (ESU) - Self-Design
United Nations (UN) - Self-Design & Purchase (Assorted Suppliers)
Major Powers:
New Swabian League (NSL) - Self-Design
Federal States Europa (FSE) - Self-Design
Minor Powers:
New Israel (NI) - Self-Design & Purchase (Assorted Suppliers)
Islamic Federation (IF) - Self-Design & Purchase (ESU, FSE)
League of Latin American Republics (LLAR) - Purchase (ESU, FSE)
Romanov Hegemony (RH) - Self Design & Purchase (NAC, NSL)
Free Cal-Tex (FCT) - Produces NAC Designs
Oceanic Union (OU) - Self-Design & Purchase (Assorted Suppliers)
Indonesian Commonwealth (IC) - Self-Design & Purchase (??)
Scandinavian Federation (SF) - Self-Design (Let's just say that I have
inside info on this one)
Saeed Khalifate (SK) - Produces IF Designs
Japan - Self Design & Produces NAC Designs
Holland - Self Design & Purchase (NSL)
Switzerland - Self-Design & Purchase (NSL)
> Saeed Khalifate (SK) - Produces IF Designs
You're sure about this? Isn't the Khalifate upset at the IF?
> Schoon wrote:
> Scandinavian Federation (SF) - Self-Design (Let's just say that I
<g> Though they probably still have some old NSL-designed ships left
too in the colonial flottilas <g>
Later,
> You're sure about this? Isn't the Khalifate upset at the IF?
No, I'm not sure. That's what all of you are for: to catch my stupid
mistakes ;-)
> <g> Though they probably still have some old NSL-designed ships left
The way I figured it ;-) they used NSL designs until about half-way
through the Second Solar War, so "yes," there are probaly alot of NSL ships
still around.
Sean,
You've omitted the PAU, whom I would suggest has some self-design
capability, but mostly purchases from the FSE, NAC, and ESU. The PAU is
documented in FB1 as purchasing from the ESU and FSE, and the Kinshasa
indicates that they must also purchase some ships from the NAC. Also,
according to some of the background in SGII, the IF is hostile toward the NAC
AND the ESU, and so should purchase from the FSE only, IMHO.
Bob
[quoted original message omitted]
> You've omitted the PAU, whom I would suggest has some
The PAU is
> documented in FB1 as purchasing from the ESU and FSE
The initial FTL capability was FSE, along with the Islamic Fed's FTL. However,
that was quite a few years ago. As the FSE supported the IF, and as the IF and
PAU grew increasingly antagonistic, the PAU switched most of its purchasing to
NAC and ESU.
Of course, factions within the FSE might be quite willing to let a few ship
plans go to the PAU, either with or without official blessing. In this as in
anything else, if you want to
use the ships in your fleet, do so--all this "whose ships are
sold to whom" stuff is just logical suggestions for those who
are developing the semi-canon histories. If your ideas
contradict this, just give us a reasonably plausible explanation and go right
ahead.
Example--"the Alarishi Empire, not noted for getting along
with either the IF or FSE, nonetheless has a Jerez class CH. You see, it was
being transferred from the FSE shipyard to the IF, in the course of which an
Alarishi special ops team managed to capture it. How did they work this
miracle? Ah, therein lies a tale..." You can embroider from there. On the
other hand, if I said "Alarish has purchased 18 SDN and 5 CVA from the UN",
even though no fleet list of UN ships has been published you could, with
perfect justification, say "Buy? Since when has Alarish had any desire to
interact with
the UN?"--or with even better justification (yes, better than
perfect) say "That quite a capital investment you have there, and you've only
got 37 million people. Exactly how are you paying for this?" The gripping hand
(yes, I know, you were waiting for me to say that) is that you can always do
whatever you like. As long as you pay for the minis, Jon Tuffley isn't very
likely to send the Canon Police to break down your door and take you away in
the middle of the night. And if he ever finds himself in charge of a Canon
Police squad, he probably has higher priority abductees in mind, anyway.
However, if you _do_ find Canon Police burning through your
door at two in the morning, bear in mind that they always carry a portable
Teske Field generator, and resistance is useless.
> You've omitted the PAU, whom I would suggest has some
The PAU is documented in FB1 as purchasing from the ESU and FSE
Right, the Suffrens. I was just looking up the exploits of the
Vice-Amiral Pierre-Andre de Suffren de Saint Tropez--he
certainly deserved to have a class named after him.
In this as in anything else, if you want to use the ships in
your fleet, do so--all this "whose ships are
sold to whom" stuff is just logical suggestions for those who
are developing the semi-canon histories. If your ideas
contradict this, just give us a reasonably plausible explanation and go right
ahead.
Example--"the Alarishi Empire, not noted for getting along
with either the IF or FSE, nonetheless has a Jerez class CH. You see, it was
being transferred from the FSE shipyard to the IF, in the course of which an
Alarishi special ops team managed to capture it. How did they work this
miracle? Ah, therein lies a tale..." You can embroider from there. On the
other hand, if I said "Alarish has purchased 18 SDN and 5 CVA from the UN",
even though no fleet list of UN ships has been published you could, with
perfect justification, say "Buy? Since when has Alarish had any desire to
interact with
the UN?"--or with even better justification (yes, better than
perfect) say "That quite a capital investment you have there, and you've only
got 37 million people. Exactly how are you paying for this?" The gripping hand
(yes, I know, you were waiting for me to say that) is that you can always do
whatever you like. As long as you pay for the minis, Jon Tuffley isn't very
likely to send the Canon Police to break down your door and take you away in
the middle of the night. And if he ever finds himself in charge of a Canon
Police squad, he probably has higher priority abductees in mind, anyway.
However, if you _do_ find Canon Police burning through your
door at two in the morning, resistance is useless.