Ship Names

5 posts · Dec 29 2000 to Apr 29 2003

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:47:06 +1100

Subject: Re: Ship Names

From: "Chris DeBoe" <LASERLIGHT@quixnet.net>

> Murphy et al, Attys, also known as Muphy's Lawyers, have two light

I see, they have the complete set.
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> At 10:47 AM +1000 29/12/2000, Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:

The more you look into the company the more intricate and devious it becomes.

;-)

MarkS

Genetically: I am half Murphy blood by the way.

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:35:08 -0800 Jaime Tiampo
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> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

We needed more, we didn't have it, and, IMO, along with 1)the BC group being
significantly farther behind then it should have been despite have orders
written for turn 7 on turn 4, that's what killed our chances at victory [along
with 2)neither BC or BB group making any turns after turn 2 IIRC (make my two
turns involving mid turn turns look better then it was...)] the last two turns
of the game.

All this 'turn' talk has turned my head!

Gracias, Glenn/Triphibious
You don't have to be French to be a 'frog', or even human!
Nektons - Real Marines!
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Conflicts and Uprisings, and Full Thrust/2nd.  Resistance is everything!

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:37:45 -0800 Jaime Tiampo
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> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

How does this differ from ADAF?

Gracias, Glenn/Triphibious
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:37:45 -0800 Jaime Tiampo
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Before or After MT? Not that I can afford to get either in the near turn,,, I
mean the near term.

Gracias, Glenn/Triphibious
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ADAF was a selfcontained area PDS. ADFC is now a "fire control" for your
existing PDS. It doesn't fire itself, but allows all your other PDS to act as
ADAF for 1 ship per ADFC.

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> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

> You should get FB1, or at least get ahold of the ship constuction

Before MT.

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson oerjan.ohlson@telia.com

"Life is like a sewer. What you get out of it, depends on what you put into
it."
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From: Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:02:00 -0500
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 07:36:07 -0500, "Bell, Brian K (Contractor)"
> <Brian.Bell@dscc.dla.mil> wrote:

> Light Artillery has a minimum of 24" (SG) and all other has a mimimum

Ummm. No. Sorry, it's more subtle than that. The only weapons with minimum
ranges are mortars and rockets. From page 47, under "On-Table Artillery
Fire":
"Gun-type artillery may engage any visible target in this way, but
Rocket artillery (MRLs) and mortars have minimum ranges below which they may
not fire: these are 24" for light mortars and 48" for all other weapon types."

So light mortars have 24" minimum range, but medium and heavy mortars, and
rockets, have 48" minimum range. There is no indication of what would
constitute a light mortar, though light, medium, heavy, and rockets are listed
on page 46.

Allan Goodall awg@sympatico.ca
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Bif, Knocking the ball back to your court, with additional questions. (between
the XXXs) I have also placed initial questions and your replys together to
make things a bit easier to follow. (I hope) JTL

> --- bif smith <bif@bifsmith.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> > The question that come to mind are;
XXX
     At this point the SLM-AF is a direct fire
weapon that does not 'need' a marker, just roll
the die and remove fighters.   (The fighters are
within 12 of the firing ship and the firing ship can ALWAYS place the marker
where the fighters cannot fire on it.) XXX

> >2) Are you going to allow the SLM-AF to attack
XXX This rolls into number one. XXX

> >3) Scatterguns are Kra'Vak weapons, the adoption
XXX
     The inclusin of non-human tech invites the
abuse of the other non-human tech under another
PSB format.   The use of sub-munition rules for
the to hit of the SLM-AF is acceptable as
an improved sub-munition.
XXX

> >4) The suggestion of a 12 unit range for the
XXX Quite correct, about the SLMs in a persuit, once above speed 36 you cannot
hit anything in
front of your ship.   Same thing here w/the
SLM-AF.   Unless the real plan for these is
to allow the enemy to attack your ship w/fighters
and use the SLM-AF on the second attack turn when
the fighters a 'captive' due to the last turns attack. XXX

> >5) It will become necessary to add another phase
XXX This question returns to number 4 where
range is the issue w/me.   Choice does not
cause any concern as the player can use the most effective at his whim. XXX

Bye for now, John L.
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> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

> Before or After MT? Not that I can afford to get either in the near

Before. You can work with out MT if you have FB1. The new ship construction
rules and core system rules aswell as fighter info clarifications are in FB1.
You'll miss some minor stuff but you can pick that up from others. by word of
mouth before you buy the book. It's still usefull, and I reference it often,
but MT is not as important to have right away as FB1 is

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Hello!!

Some questions about SG2 rules:

Reaction Fire: Performing one action of Reaction Fire uses up the whole
activation of the unit

that fires. It may do nothing more that turn.
It's not possible for a QG squad to Re-active the unit by a successfull
communication?

Non Penetrating Hit Vehicule In case of confidence test fail, the crew must
bail out of the vehicule. Even the vehicule is Suppressed?

Aerospace Operations Bombing mission by ground attack craft, should be dealt
with as
off-table
support in the same way as artillery. Does it mean that i must make a fire
support accuracy test and chose a warhead type for the bomb?

Sniper If a hidden sniper use he's normal move, he is spotted and his figure
is placed

on the table?
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> -----Original Message-----
[snip]

> > >4) The suggestion of a 12 unit range for the
[snip]

> Bye for now,
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I believe that the SML-AF would be launched AFTER fighter movement
(unlike normal SML launches).

---
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You are, of course, correct.

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> -----Original Message-----
[Bri] Yes, the unit may be reactivated by a Leader Activation (uses 1
action of the leader). I would also suggest that you look at the excelent
Overwatch house rules by Thomas Barclay at
http://www.stargrunt.com/rules/ovwatch.html

> Non Penetrating Hit Vehicule
[Bri] Hmmm. The rules seem to contradict themselves. A non-penetrating
hit would seem to place the vehicle under suppression. Page 18 states that
suppression on a vehicle prohibits the crew from exiting the vehicle. I would
say that, no the crew would not leave the vehicle until the suppression was
removed. But I would suggest a house rule that the crew could not perform
combat actions until they succeeded in the confidence check or remove the
suppression marker.

> Aerospace Operations
[Bri] Yes, if a sniper chooses to use normal movement instead of
hidden movement, he is placed on the table. I doubt that this would happen
unless the sniper decided that leaving quickly was a better option than
staying hidden.

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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:10:16 -0800

Subject: Re: Ship Names

> > Murphy et al, Attys, also known as Muphy's Lawyers, have two light

One of the horde of Brians we have around here said:
> Murphy & Co sound like one of the many reasons why some powers

Oddly enough, if you read it again you'll see it says "COUNTERpiracy" ops. The
AE has more than its share of registered mercenary corporations, but they're
all legal by international law.

From: Donogh McCarthy <donoghmc@h...>

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:07:09 +0000

Subject: Ship Names

Here's a nice list for the NAC; short histories of every Royal Navy ship in
the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars period. Â
http://www.cronab.demon.co.uk/INTRO.HTM Â

From: Germ <germ@g...>

Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:44:27 +0100

Subject: Re: Ship Names

> I am so full of subjects today.....

So glad there is someone else who puts names to their ships. I rather boringly
stuck to names of battles i.e. Waterloo, Hastings, Agincourt.

I found the names helped to identify what the ships did and how they were
faring in battle. Quite often I'd be looking at what damaged boxes to tick off
saying things like "not the Kursk again!" Naming ships is a quick way to
discover which ones have a death wish:)

Jeremey www.germy.co.uk

From: Izenberg, Noam <Noam.Izenberg@j...>

Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:34:25 -0400

Subject: Re: Ship Names

I don't paint the names on the ships, for the same reason others tend not to.
I have throught of printing up "slipcovers" for bases, however,
basically washer-shapes of high quality paper with a slit through the
circle to allow it to fit around the post of a standard base. The
circle is black with the ship name - and or other designators- in white
or color. It has to be small enough to not block the clock-facings.
Haven't done it yet, but shouldn't be too hard. You could even make covers
that you always keep with a given mini to list kills and deaths.

I'm a big Culture name style fan myself. If I get to choose my ships in PBeM's
or FTJava and I'm not trying to be historical, I usually go for them. My
current fleet (being dismantled by Tomb in FTJava, unfortunately) is an
example:

The Problem with Inertia Back By Popular Demand Causal Loop Divisible Prime
Irresistible Object Immovable Force To The Left Where There’s Smoke To Be
Continued Fearful Angel Treading Agorophile Four Sigma Event OneWord
Dictionary Winging It Suppressed Evidence

I've got a bunch more of mine and others, including most from the Culture
novels at:
http://nift.firedrake.org/The_Fleet.htm

That list hasn't been updated in over 2 years, so there's still more:

(ROU) Move to strike (ROU) Malice Aforethought (ROU) Hostile Witness (ROU)
Premeditating (GSV) I have Half a mind – Where‘s the other half? (VFP)
Xeno's Arrow (VFP) Alternate Route (GSV) Add All
Post-Grindstone Nose
(ROU) Anger Management (ROU) Complaint Department (ROU) Custodial Services
(ROU) End-Of-Lifer
Just Checking Metastable Cartoon Physics Everything I say Is A Lie Still Life
With Dyson Sphere Do Not Know, So Cannot Say (ROU) Irreconcilable Difference
(ROU) Objection Overruled (GSV) Face to the Sun (VFP) Maybe It’s Time (ROU)
Screaming in Space (VFP) Identity Crisis (rogue)