Jon wrote
> >>1) One thing no one has manufactured: Manufacture of a design by
I don't think it's that easy to steal a vessel and then reverse-engineer
it to build copies. There have been few instances, the most complex example I
can think of is the Soviet copy of the B29 Superfortress,
reverse-engineered
from one that crashed in their territory.
Stealing plans seems more likely.
In both instances, the copycats usually think they know better and will modify
the design.
By far the most common will be designs inspired by a successful type. Of
course, at first sight and in raw stats, these might be undistinguishable
from the original ;-)
Greetings Karl Heinz
I once heard of a Korean electronics firm that had purchased an "automated
circuit board solding" machine. It was a massive unit about 30-40 feet
long. And right beside it was a perfect copy the plant's engineers had made of
the orginal.
It seems to me that a ship is just somewhat bigger, and will take somewhat
longer. Anyone can hire the compitant engineers.
Donald Hosford
> Karl Heinz Ranitzsch wrote:
> Jon wrote
Of
> course, at first sight and in raw stats, these might be
From: "Karl Heinz Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de>
> I don't think it's that easy to steal a vessel and then
...right down to the manufacturer's nameplate on the Tupolev Tu-4.
Having been in the business, I've see a Norinco copy of a Krauss-Mafei
hydraulic Fire Control System for tanks that was indistinguishable from the
original. They got it via the Israelis. Same place they got their 105mm main
tank gun, which is "a Chinese Copy of an Israeli modification
of the US-manufactured version of the UK Royal Ordnance Factory L7A1
gun".
From: "Donald Hosford" <Hosford.Donald@ACD.net>
> I once heard of a Korean electronics firm that had purchased an
> I once heard of a Korean electronics firm that had purchased an
Speaking as someone who used to sell industrial materials, there's always
someone who wants to tamper with the designs.
Engineer: "We have these rods 1.25" diameter, we can get them from the German
OEM for $800 each, but I wanted to check with
you..."
Me: "Well, tell me what the manufacturer describes it as...Okay, I can sell
you those for $525 instead of $800. Won't be the same color but it'll do the
same thing." Engineer: "Okay, just to be sure, it's used for" (he fills in
application and temperature details). Me: "Well, from what you're telling me,
it sounds like you could use UHMW instead of PEEK. Instead of 2 feet at $525
each, you'd be getting 10 feet at $4.20 per foot, call it $5 per foot to hit
our order minimum. Should work just as well for what you're using it for."
(This conversation actually happened).
Watched this one on a news show a while back. First the camera showed the
reporter infront of one of the machines, then the camera swiveled to show the
other.
:-)