> FP3 armour 8,
Ah, well I pulled an orbat off the web that said just that
Extract "Body Armour - The NIDF body armour is
extremely lightweight
silicon and carbon-ceramic laminate allowing the wearer virtually
unencumbered movement. It provides a fully sealed environment protection
enabling limited vacuum environment operations. Command Suits have an
integrated C3I system providing very advanced target detection and EW
capability. ARMOUR VALUE: d8, MOBILITY: 8" or d8", Superior Sensors d10,
enhanced ECM,
d8."
Can't remeber who wrote it sadly, but my NI figures thank him from teh bottom
of thier little lead hearts
> --- Richard Kirke <richardkirke@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, well I pulled an orbat off the web that said
> Can't remeber who wrote it sadly, but my NI figures
Owen Glover. It's the only NI Interface Assault Group Orbat I know of floating
around on the web. There's a DSII organization up on Noam's website, but it's
not compatible.
It's your table, your PSB, but I wouldn't buy it. I run the exact same figures
as NRE Thematic (2nd line) troops with 6" mobility. Mostly because I've
actually
_worn_ body armor. Even the Interceptor suite is hot
and heavy and it doesn't cover arms/legs. IMU, if you
want your 8" you better be either wearing d4 armor or d6 armor and be scouts
(ie, short on heavy weapons). Again, that's IMU.
> Owen Glover.
Aha thanks
> It's the only NI Interface Assault Group
> It's your table, your PSB, but I wouldn't buy it. I
Hmm something to think about (but its one edge that the NI have over the PA
assisted NSL force they come across).
out of interest, what orbat do you (or anyone else out there) use for NI
forces/ I use 8 man squads (6 man command)
Here is Owen Glover's New Israeli Defence Forces:
New Israeli Defence Forces
Interface Assault Unit
General In outline the Battalion sized unit consists of a HQ, two company
sized Interface Assault Groups (IAG) and a Combat Vehicles Group (CVG).
CVG The CVG comprises a HQ of two Fire Support Vehicles and two Commnad
Vehicles, a Fire Support Vehicle Troop and two Armoured Transport Troops. The
FSV Troop consists of a two vehicle HQ and 3 sections each of 4 FSVs. The
Transport Troops each hold the allocations of vehicles for each of the
Interface Assault Groups,
IAG The IAG is structured to enable a wide variety of combat roles to be
undertaken in either planetary orbit or on surface. Consequently the IAGs are
a very closely integrated organisation and are exremely well equipped when
compared to most other specialist forces.
The IAG HQ consists of a 4 man Command Section and a 4 man security element.
There are two Assault Platoons and a Weapons Platoon. Weapons provides
Pathfinder patrols for surface landings, snipers and the Direct
and Indirect fire support assets that may be required in support of operations
from zero G vacuum ship boardings to a conventional ground based assault on
such targets as a Command HQ.
The two Assault Platoons are identical in organisation. They consist of:
HQ - a 4 man HQ squad, armaments include 3 Assault Rifles and a SAW.
One of the trooper's combat armour will be fitted with a C3I suite.
There are 5 Assault Squads each of 4 men. They are normally comprised of 3 ARs
and 1 SAW. Three of the Assault Squads will have one of the AR armed troopers
equipped with an integrated Advanced GMS launcher in addition to the AR.
Alternatively, depending on Mission Threat
Analysis, the AR/GMS combination may be replaced with a Heavy Anti
Material Rifle (HAMR); although each Assault Platoon will not be issued with
more than two HAMRs (in which case the GMS is usually not issued).
The Weapons Platoon contains a small HQ, Mortar Squad, Direct Fire Weapons
Squad and the Pathfinders. The HQ consists of 4 men armed with 3 AR and 1 SAW.
The Mortar Squad consists of 10 men; a command element of 2 men and 2
detachments each of 4 men operating 2 Light RAMs in each detachment. Each man
carries a standard AR.
The DFW Squad consists of two detachments each of 2 GMS/L mounted
on vehicles or ground mount tripods. Manning is a command team of two men with
each detachment having 4 men. Each man in the squad carries an AR.
Finally the Pathfinders; 2 Pathfinder Teams, one to support each Assualt
Platoon, each consisting of 4 men (3 ARs and 1 SAW). The Pathfinder Command
Team has the commander and his 2IC as well as two specialist snipers who may
each be attached to a Pathfinder Team, the Assault Platoon or operate
independently. The Command Team members carry the standard AR. The snipers are
equipped with the HAMR as well as a Personal Defence Weapon (PDW). During the
conduct of Extra Atmosphere Operations the sniper often replaces the HAMR with
a laser based weapon.
Weapons and Equipment
Assault Rifle The AR-7 produced by Shadrach Arms on NI is a 10mm
Gauss Rifle fitted with a 5 round 30mm Semi-Automatic Grenade
launcher. The Gauss operating system proving highly suitable for ZeroG
operation. FP 3, Impact d12.
Squad Automatic Weapon The MG-21 also produced on NI by Mag'ach
Intertech. The MG-21 is a carriage fed, Guass operated fully automatic
light support weapon. An integrated Electro-Optical sight enable the
firer to observe targets without exposing himself to enemy fire although in
practice firing 'around corners' is still not feasible due to damping problems
on the Gauss action vibrations. The ammunition is normally carried in a
shoulder pack. FP d10, Impact d12.
Guided Missile Systems A revolutionary design in the GMS field, the NI ST12 is
an extremly light weight back pack mounted missile system firing
a 60mm HEAT warhead missile. The missile is a 'fire and forget' weapon that
utilises an advanced Thermal and Photon Image Recognition system to lock on
to, and track its target. Consequently it is much less susceptible to ECM
although is vulnerable to battlefield obscuration, rain and fog. The NI
integrated shoulder harness allows a hands free operation enabling
the firer to carry and use another small arm weapon, such as the AR-7.
The ST15 is a GMS/L normally fitted on Ground Mount Tripod or
Vehicle Pintle Mount. Essentially the same as the ST12 but firing a longer
range missile and fitted with a larger warhead. ST12 Guidance: Superior d10,
Impact d12. ST15 Guidance d10, Impact d12x2.
Heavy Anti-Materiel Rifle Built along the same design guidelines as the
AR-7 the M2 HAMR is a magazine fed, Gauss operated Semi-Automatic
rifle that fires a 30mm sabot casing incorporating a 5mm Depleted Uranium Core
Penetrator. Against weapons control systems, communcations equipment and
actual weapons ordnance it has proved extremely effective. FP d8, Impact
d12x2.
Laser Sniping Rifle The design and specifications of the NI laser sniping
rifle are still classified and are unavailable. After Action Report
Assessments indicate it is much lighter than conventional LSR. It is assessed
that the NILSR has a FP of d12 and Impact of d8 or d10.
Personal Defence Weapon The PDW as carried by NI specialists and
many vehicle and air crew is very utilitarian design equivalent to a standard
SMG. The PDW is a magazine fed, select fire small arm that fires a 4.5 mm
caseless round from a 30 round magazine with a cyclic rate of fire of 1200
rpm. It is generally used at close range only, but may be used at longer
ranges. FP 1, (CL Range FP3) Impact d8.
Body Armour The NI specialist body armour is an extremely lightweight
silicon and carbon-ceramic laminate allowing the wearer virtually
unencumbered movement. It provides a fully sealed environment protection
enabling limited vacuum environment operations. Command Suits have an
integrated C3I system providing very advanced target detection and EW
capability. ARMOUR VALUE: d8, MOBILITY: 8" or d8", Superior Sensors d10,
enhanced ECM, d8.
Depending on Concept of Operations, combat vehicles may be either VTOLs or
more commonly Grav. Under development currently is the LEVI, Grav Assault
Vehicle (Light). This is a lightly armoured Grav vehicle that will carry
troops from High Altitude Drops onto a ground
target. The In-Service Variants will likely mount DFFG or GMS/H
systems. MOBILITY: Grav SIZE CLASS: 3 (medium) ARMOUR CLASS: 3
WEAPONRY: Expected DFFG/2 and Co-Axial SAW with
Superior FC or GMS/H and DFFG/1 dual.
Command Variant will carry a twin SAW turret, C3I suite and have 4 troop
spaces. CREW: 2
TROOP SPACES: 8 (Command - 4)
> --- Richard Kirke <richardkirke@hotmail.com> wrote:
> out of interest, what orbat do you (or anyone else
There's another different NI organization out there that someone has sworn
they are going to format and send to me as soon as Real Life lets them do so.
As for me, I don't use 'em as NI.
I use them as Roman Thematic (2nd line) Skutatoi (Mech
Infantry). My newest organizations (Theta-series MTOE
adopted after the Romanov War, authorized in 2179) should be up on
stargrunt.ca someday, but aren't yet.
Theta Type 3: Thematic Skutatoi (1/39)
Platoon HQ Squad: PL, PSG, EW, Medic, Marksman (1/5)
3xLine Squads: SL, TL, 2xAR, 2xSAW, 2xAA (0/8)
Weapons Squad: 2xAT Gunner (Senior Gunner is Squad
Leader), 2xAG (0/4)
Vehicle Squad: 3xTC (Senior TC is Squad Leader),
4xDrivers (0/7)
PL, SL, TL, AR: Combat Armor, Mk7 Automatic Rifle EW: Combat Armor, Mk7,
Superior EW Suite Medic: Combat Armor, Mk3 Submachine Gun Marksman: Combat
Armor, Mk 24 Gauss Sniper Rifle SAW: Combat Armor, Mk8 Gauss SAW AA: Combat
Armor, Mk7, 2xIAVR AT Gunner: Combat Armor, Pit Bull Light Guided Missle
Launcher, Mk3 SMG AG: Combat Armor, Mk7, 3xPit Bull Light Guided Missles PSG,
TC, Driver: Combat Vehicular Crewman Suit, Mk3 Submachine Gun
Major End Items: 4xMichael Comnenus IFV 32xCombat Armor Suits
2xPit Bull GMS/L Launchers
1xEW Suite 6xMk8 SAW 22xMk7 Rifles 12xMk3 SMG 1xMk 24 Gauss Sniper Rifle
Tactical Employment: Again, this MTOE is not intended to fight without it's
vehicles. While the PSG commands the vehicles, the PL dismounts to lead the
squads. The anti-armor teams may be divided up and
added to the line squads, or may be kept together as a reserve. The HQ Squad
is for administrative purposes only, elements thereof will either function as
individual figures or be attached to a line squad.
Designer's Notes: Again I'm limited in the number of heavy weapons attached by
the carrying capacity of the IFVs. Firepower of the squads is the same as
their Tagmatic counterparts, but the third squad is a dramatic increase in
platoon firepower. Of course, they are also a lot less survivable than powered
armor troops, and slower as well. Currently, there is no
GMS/L miniature so I'm using the GMS/P mini with a
regular rifleman as an AG.
Hi Richard,
> FP3 armour 8,
> Hmm something to think about (but its one edge that the NI have over
You can try increasing the number of squads per platoon.
> out of interest, what orbat do you (or anyone else out there) use for
7 man squads.
Command Squad 1xGSAW 6xGR/GL.
Rifle Squad - 2xGSAW 5xGR/GL.
Support Squad - 2xPIG 2xGMS/P 3xGR/GL. (PIG gunners often attached to
rifle squads before the battle.)
Currently trying to decide whether there should be two or three rifle squads
per platoon.
> --- steve@pugh.net wrote:
> 7 man squads.
> Currently trying to decide whether there should be
2-squad PLTs would have less than 20 riflemen in 'em.
Not robust enough to absorb casualties and continue fighting.
Second, only 2 squads lacks tactical flexibility.
The only time I use 2-squad platoons, I have the
squads in powered armor, a weapons squad, and 4 IFVs providing backup.
> There's another different NI organization out there
puts his hand up, you that'll be me
Life is rather getting in the way at the mo, but I'll hope to do it pretty
soon