From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 19:10:01 +1000
Subject: Re: SGII and Mercs
> Peter Mancini wrote: Which is why the Royal Australian Air Force is the proud possessor of 2
From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 19:10:01 +1000
Subject: Re: SGII and Mercs
> Peter Mancini wrote: Which is why the Royal Australian Air Force is the proud possessor of 2
From: Peter Mancini <peter_mancini@m...>
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:48:56 -0400
Subject: SGII and Mercs
Looks like the headlines are providing us with all sorts of neat stuff for scenarios. Search any news site (you can use Yahoo or Altavista or some other useful site) for "Sandline International", the news concerns the activities of a British mercenary group that has been involved in Papua New Guinea on a cadre and arms deal. Apparently they were under the impression they were within the bounds of the law but it looks like that they might not have been and the Blair government is in full coverup mode! I don't have many details, I only heard about it on NPR/BBC on the way into work this morning. I've read some news on international sites and the details I have read are tantilizing. I am going to do some more research as it will help codify some strategic rules for Mercs. I am working on a Merc mini-campaign to run this summer at my club using SGII and this will impact it. --Pete
From: Noah Doyle <nvdoyle@m...>
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 22:29:13 EDT
Subject: Re: SGII and Mercs
I tried to do some websearch on this stuff (Sandline) and came up with a LOT of various stuff, from all sides (I think). This is a real mess, worthy of a Fred Forsythe novel. Beth has a better grasp on it than I do, but I'll add my 2cc: Sandline Intl, a merc/security corporation was in PNG to train the PNG military, cadre duty essentially, and possibly help against the insurgency in Bougainville. They subcontracted to the South Africa branch of Executive Outcomes, a "British mercenary corporation" (unknown web site). There was also a lot of flak (pardon) about 4 copters, 2 Mi-24 Hinds & 2 Mi-7 Hips, that Sandline/Exec was going to sell to the PNG gov't. Apparently these whirlybirds were REAL close to their useful lifetimes. Apparently a qualified mechanic gave them 6 months, 12 at the outside with lots of maintenance and repair. These things had apparently seen action in Angola and Sierra Leone, and somebody was trying to foist them off on the PNGs for a lot of money. On a related note, does anybody know of any books or sources (reliable) that detail mercenary operations postWW2? This whole business is fascinating, as most people, media or otherwise, here in the States treat this as if it were from a technothriller, but don't seem to realize that this actually goes on. Anything publications here that involve mercs usually end up in the 'Men's Adventure' section.
From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 10:40:56 +0100
Subject: Re: SGII and Mercs
G'day, I'm a bit rusty on Sandline, but its activities were BIG news down here in OZ last year (or year before? Can't remember exactly when). Basically (as far as I can remember and I may have this a little messed up) the PNG government shelled out quite a large sum of money (approx. 20 million plus from a fairly poor govt) to Sandline to clear up separatists on Bougainville Is. - which had been at war with PNG (trying to get independence) for sometime. Basically the island has some big mines/ore deposits on it so the PNG really wanted peace so they could get on with it (as the mines are developed by large foreign investors e.g. BHP Aust. which won't send their workers into the area until its non-threatening again as a few Oz miners had been killed before). Officially the merc.s weren't supposed to get into action, but just help/teach/provide support for the PNG soldiers. However the **** hit the fan when Sandline organised (in advance of any action) for helicopters and private hospital care in Cairns (north Queensland Australia) "just in case" and this raised questions as = foreign merc. asking to bring wounded into Australian hsopitals (head of state govt then declares this won't happen even thought its beyond he's field of influence). Short while later the head of the PNG military (General Singirok I think he was called) announces that govt is doing illegal things (e.g. mercs were actually there to take out the Bougainville resistance army leaders) and that he and the miliatry will have nothing to do with. There were riots (OK so looting etc. are fairly common in PNG anyway, so not as shocking as riots in central London say) and a VERY tense situation (e.g. army guy got sacked and charged with mutiny, but he remained in place and his followers wouldn't let the govt reps into the barracks to get him, troops tried to get into the armoury etc. - luckily enough the officers involved were level headed and bloodshed was avoided). Aust. govt siezed all equipment (planes etc) purchased by Sandline in Oz for the PNG op. (mind you what they said had been bought cost < than what had been spent and so there was some question as to what they were hiding which made up the difference) and also threatened to stop OZ aid schemes to PNG (quite a large% of Oz foreign aid goes to PNG and the PNG depends on it) until the mercs were out. Sandline went home (with the money). There were a number of parlimentary inquires and the PNG PM (Sir Julius Chan) lost his seat BIG time in next election (which was brought on by the scandal). The head of the PNG military did end up out of a job in the end as he got done on "fire arms charges" (i.e. having a pistol in his house) after he'd been a witness in one of the VERY damaging inquires. Major scandal kind of stuff (especially if you were in Queensland at the time - as Oz media flocked to it like moths to a flame, one network went so far as to send high profile host to interview "his mate the PNG PM" so they're get the big ratings, but Oz public did get a balanced view from the single ABC correspondent who actually lives in PNG). Just a few other salient points. 1) At the time there was some question as to whether or not Aust. troops would get involved, but our govt denied that any Oz troops would go to Bougainville - they had been peace keepers there in past, and Oz troops had gone to Fiji when a coup occurred there, but the govt. ruled it out this time as no foreign nationals needed to be evacuated. 2) It happened before the Blair govt was elected so I'm not sure what kind of cover up they're been in. 3) I think Sandline is headed up by some ex-Guard brits but its actually based in Africa (something about being illegal to run Merc.s off Brit soil I think). 4) The BRA (Bougainville army) signed a peace deal last week and their is currently a cease fire in place with OZ troops there as non-armed observers (mind you the ex-head of the BRA reckons he'll still shoot to kill, but the current leaders of the BRA are saying that's crap). 5) When going thru' old news reports I think you'll find those by the ABC will be closest to the mark. Hope this helps. Cheers, Beth > At 13:48 7/05/98 -0400, you wrote:
From: tlsmith@m... (Terrance L. Smith)
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:14:55 -0600
Subject: Re: SGII and Mercs
The April '98 issue of Command magazine has a 3 page article on Bougainville Sandline, etc. I also noted the possible SG scenarios this suggested.