9mm ain't that bad. But, as far as I know, criminals can and do use eveything
from zipguns to big 'ol assault rifles. When dealing with routine stuff, no
prob. But the bulls are outclassed often by bad guys.... If only due to
budgetary constraints. Let's just say a goodly portion of the enforcement
powers of most Peace Officers comes not from them 9mm's but from the uniform
and badge. Fine on the routine beat, but when push comes to shove (like in a
SG2 scenario) a high capacity 9mm might not be the optimal weapon to have.
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Howdy!
> On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, George,Eugene M wrote:
> 9mm ain't that bad.
They are easy to shoot and high capacity, hence their popularity. Their
lethality is adequate.
> eveything from zipguns to big 'ol assault rifles. When dealing with
That view is certainly championd by Hollywood and some Police Departments...:)
Most police are VERY well armed or have quick access to firepower. In some
rare cases, the police in one area may be outgunned (i.e. LA last year during
that aborted bank robbery).
All of the police that I have worked with (Rhode Island and Florida) caried a
high capacity 9mm, and within 60 seconds, could lay
their hands on a shotgun, MP-5, or AR-15.
Laterish!
Ken
> enforcement powers of most Peace Officers comes not from them 9mm's
True!
> You wrote:
Myth. Ever checked the percentages of crime which is actually carried out with
assault rifles? Not many at all, and even SMGs are rather unusual.
> the uniform and badge. Fine on the routine beat, but when push comes
It's either that or give them an assault rifle. Which cannot be carried in an
inconspicious manner. Most police calls which involve violence are domestic
disputes between married couples. Walking into that emotional minefield with
an assault rifle will NOT do anything to calm down the situation, which is a
police officer's first priority in almost all cases. When "Push comes to
shove" then additional firepower can be brought in.
Not myth in North Hollywood, IIRC it took LAPD more than a few minutes to get
enough firepower and men to stop a squad of poorly trained, well equipped
losers. My point is, in a SG2 scenario your average squad of LAPD would be
very underpowered compared to criminals who are ready to rock and roll. So
maybe at the end of the third or fourth turn of play, the 'Good
Guys' get some SWAT-Types with body armor and assault rifles to assist
units with 9mm's and 12ga. shotguns, maybe the bulls have flak vests and
helmets
in the trunk, maybe SMGs (especially in a cyber-punky future).
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> out with assault rifles? Not many at all, and even SMGs are rather
> to >shove (like in a SG2 scenario) a high capacity 9mm might not be
> calm down the situation, which is a police officer's first priority in
> almost all cases. When "Push comes to shove" then additional
> George,Eugene M wrote:
I wonder how many Non-Australians are familiar with Ned Kelly? Sort of
the Oz equivt of Jesse James - or for that matter, Vladimir Ilyich
Ulyanov.
Look him up. You might be interested to see for how long Crims have had
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I wonder how many Non-Australians are familiar with Ned Kelly? Sort of
the Oz equivt of Jesse James - or for that matter, Vladimir Ilyich
Ulyanov.
Look him up. You might be interested to see for how long Crims have had a)
Body Armour and b) Superior Firepower.
> or for that matter, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov.
<confused> Lenin?
</confused>
> You wrote:
> Not myth in North Hollywood, IIRC it took LAPD more than a few minutes
IMHO, the procedure already posted as SOP for modern Irish policeman makes the
most sense in those.0001% of crimes where real firepower is
involved--have the regular cops basically tail the gunmen and vector in
the cops with real firepower. No vehicle (barring an FTL-capable
starship) is faster than a radio wave. Anyone who argues with guys with
assault rifles and other junk without adequate firepower deserves to get shot
for their stupidity.
> Tim Jones wrote:
Yes.
A.Bertram Chandler wrote an interesting "alternate History" of
Australia, assuming the Kelly-led insurrection became a full-scale Irish
Revolt. Australia did a 1776, with the capital at Glenrowan (where the