[SG2] vehicle sizes/equipment from standard GZG minis

5 posts ยท Oct 17 2000 to Oct 18 2000

From: Barclay, Tom <tomb@b...>

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:57:44 -0400

Subject: [SG2] vehicle sizes/equipment from standard GZG minis

Would anyone care to speculate (hopefully having the minis to comment from) on
what size they think the following 25mm vehicles would be and what they are
armed with:

SF25-28 Wombat Medium Hover APC
(My guess is size 2 or 3 with DFFG 1 or 2)

SF25-27 Light Hover Jeep
(My guess is size 1 with a free exterior APSW/HMG)

SF25-56 Light Interface Transport
(My guess here is oversize - like about size 5-7 range,
carries a size 3 vehicle and a twin turretted HEL 1 or 2 system)

SF25-57 LIPPC
(My guess is size 2 or 3 with???)

SF25-67 Coonhound FSV
(My guess is same size as LIPPC with an HKP 3 or 4 and an internal either
APSW/HMG or RFAC/1)

SF25-86 Phalanx
(My guess is size 4 or 5 - interestingly I recall a design in one of the
books with two multibarrell DFFG rotary cannons (DFFG 1 or 2) but the web
catalog suggests these are multilens lasers)

SF25-26A Goliath Heavy Hover Tank
(My guess is size 4 with a class 4 or 5 DFFG and either an APSW or
RFAC/1)

This also brings to mind the question if there is an online repository of
vehicle designs (esp for the standard minis) like there is the on-line
ship libraries?

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:20:31 -0400

Subject: Re: [SG2] vehicle sizes/equipment from standard GZG minis

> At 2000-10-17 -0400 15:57, you wrote:

For the Moonbase Xi DS2 scenario I used the following
stats for the Opossum APC based on the SF25-86 Phalanx
miniature: Equipment Item Spc Cost
Size 3                            -    15  VSP 15
Armor 3                           -     9  BVP 24
HMT Power Plant                   -     6
Hi-Mobility Wheeled               -     7
Amphibious (Vacuum)               -     5
2 x DFFG/1 FT                     4    30
APSW                              -     -
FCS Superior                      -     6
PDS Enhanced			  3    45
ECM Enhanced                      -    30
Stealth/1                         -    60
Infantry/Cargo Space              8     -

TOTAL:				 15   213

But SG2 describes the Phalanx in SG terms on p. 68. Size: 4 Armor: 3 Power
Plant:???
Hi-Mobility Wheeled
2 x DFFG/1 FT
ASPW (Free) FCS Enhanced ECM Basic Infantry Space: 16

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From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:44:55 +1100

Subject: Re: [SG2] vehicle sizes/equipment from standard GZG minis

G'day Tom,

> SF25-27 Light Hover Jeep

Derek's got this one and that's what he did. the only other vehicles he's got
are Gauntlet APCs which he runs as size class 3 (physically they're about 11cm
long, 6.5cm wide and about 8cm to the top of the turret).

Sorry we couldn't be of more help.

Beth

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:17:24 -0400

Subject: RE: [SG2] vehicle sizes/equipment from standard GZG minis

The SF25-86 Phalanx  is described as the NAC FV202 Phalanx Heavy APC
on page 68 in the Stargrunt rules.

FV202 Phalanx Hvy APC Size: 4 Armor: 3 Mobility: High Mobility Wheeled (My
assumption) Power Plant: HMT (My assumption)
Weapons:  2x DFFG/1 in turrets
Fire Controls: Enhanced Crew: 2 Troop Spaces: 16 ECM: Basic Other Equipment:
Smoke Launchers Note: This vehicle is ILLEGAL under the construction rules. A
size 4 vehicle
has 20 construction spaces. The 2xDFFG/1's (even considering them a
multi-mount in 1 turret) take 5 spaces, leaving 15. 16 troops spaces
would
take 16 construction spaces resulting in a -1 construction space for the

vehicle. I would suggest dropping the infantry capacity to 12 and leaving 3
for cargo space (extra ammo, first aid, extra fuel cells, toolkit, etc.)

For the Moonbase Xi DS2 scenario, I used the following DS2 statistics: Opossum
APC Equipment Item Spc Cost
Size 3                            -    15  VSP 15
Armor 3                           -     9  BVP 24
HMT Power Plant                   -     6
Hi-Mobility Wheeled               -     7
Amphibiouse (Vacuum)              -     5
2 x DFFG/1 FT                     4    30
APSW                              -     -
FCS Superior                      -     6
PDS Basic			  2    30
ECM Enhanced                      -    30
Stealth/1                         -    60
Infantry/Cargo Space              8     -
TOTAL:				 15   202

Since my collection includes Battletech AFVs, the Phalanx falls at either the
high end of a size 3 or the low end of a size 4.

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> -----Original Message-----
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> SF25-86 Phalanx
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> This also brings to mind the question if there is an online repository

From: Jeremy Sadler <jsadler@e...>

Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:46:17 +1000

Subject: Re: [SG2] vehicle sizes/equipment from standard GZG minis

> This also brings to mind the question if there is an online repository

Working on it, Tom!:)