[SG2] [DS2] Logistics

4 posts ยท Nov 1 1998 to Nov 4 1998

From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:56:03 -0800

Subject: RE: [SG2] [DS2] Logistics

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From:	Glover, Owen
Sent:	Saturday, October 31, 1998 7:22 PM
To:     'FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk'
Subject:	RE: [SG2] [DS2] A list of questions on TOE and logistics

<Snip>

Oh boy you asked for it.

These figures are for an Inf Div - all situations. This is the tonnage
PER day of all stores (POL, water rations, ammo). (This info is taken from
operational planning data)

Quick Attack - 625 Tonnes
Defence - 484 Tonnes
Advance/Pursuit - 402 Tonnes

As a comparison an Armd Bde reqs would be:

Quick Attack - 678 Tonnes
Defence - 584 Tonnes
Advance/Pursuit - 527 Tonnes

Bit of a difference!!!! <Snip> Owen "where's my Abacus" Glover

The following is from US doctrine (Late '70s)

Ammo in Tons
Armored Division in Defense     Day1            Day2+
2211.45 1729.82 30 Day supply @52,000 tons or @520 FT mass

just some thoughts

Michael Brown

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From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:12:22 -0800

Subject: RE: [SG2] [DS2] Logistics

Another take on Logistics

Roughly 48kg per soldier per DAY for all classes of supply

this should cover only sustainment of the troops. Ammo and special supplies
for the operation are in addition to this number.

Michael Brown

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From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:58:34 -0500

Subject: RE: [SG2] [DS2] Logistics

Michael spake thusly upon matters weighty:
> Ammo in Tons

Is the conversion 100 tons per FT mass point? That means each CP (if there are
25 CPs in a MP would be equivalent of 4 tons. So a 1 man space in an APC is
the equivalent of 4000Kg of supplies? I think that conversion a little
quesionable. Maybe a tenth of that is more reasonable (each FT mass is 10
tons). Then a CP is 400 kg which I can live with. So then you'd need 5200 mass
for a 30 day supply.

Tom.
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From: Robertson, Brendan <Brendan.Robertson@d...>

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:02:00 +1100

Subject: RE: [SG2] [DS2] Logistics

Remember, that 4 tons per man includes life support & basic living
accommodation & facilitiesfor 1-2 weeks (minimum).  1 crew space in an
APC is usually nothing more than a jump seat, transporting the grunt into a
combat zone.

Also, when you actually draw deckplans of starships in scale (15mm or 25mm), 4
tons of space equates to a 3 x 4 m stateroom (at most) as the extra tonnage
includes corridors, lifesupport, food storage etc, etc. (Sources: Traveller,
Space Opera, Spacemaster et al.)

'Neath Southern Skies

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