[sg] Vehicle ID

Can anyone identify the manufacturer/model used for the Panzerkampfagen
60
"Maus" at http://www.salute.co.uk/slammers3/pages/vehicles/maus.htm?

I beleive if you read their notes, they say it is a Soviet BRDM in
1/35th and a 1/48th Israeli Merkava turret.  Don't quote me on the
scales though.

> From: "Bell, Brian K (Contractor)" <Brian.Bell@dscc.dla.mil>

Thank you. I could not find the construction notes.

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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Bell, Brian K (Contractor) wrote:

> Can anyone identify the manufacturer/model used for the

I can - the info is in the conversions page. The body is a 1/35 scale
Soviet BMP by Dragon, the turret is a merkava turret, from a 1/48 kit
imported by Hobby Bounties.

See (at the bottom):
http://www.salute.co.uk/slammers3/pages/modelling/vehivle_conversions.ht
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Cheers,

> --- Eli Arndt <emu2020@wattosjunkyard.com> wrote:

I agree on the Merkava turret, but the hull looks like
a BMP-1 or -2. A very nice model. I generally don't
like using historical AFV models as SF game
"stand-ins" but a hybrid vehicle like this really
works well.

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Mike you are correct. To quote the site "The turret is from a 1/48th
scale Israeli Merkava, imported by Hobby Bounties, with a barrel and secondary
armament from the Marbeth catalogue, and a scratch built
bustle. The hull is a 1/35th scale Soviet BMP by Dragon, with more
accessories by Marbeth and GZG."

        I think Eli just did a typo :-)

Eli Arndt wrote in reply to Brian:

> Can anyone identify the manufacturer/model used for the

1/35th and 1/48th are correct, Merkava is correct, but the hull is a
BMP rather than a BRDM. It also has various other odds and ends stuck on, eg.
the small "point defence" turret on top of the main one.

BTW, recalling the discussion we had some months back about kitbashing SF
vehicles from modern model kits, this is a *very* good example of
why I don't do that: it's a very nice-looking model, but I and my
normal opponents all identified the main bitz in less than five
seconds, and we all know far too well how thin-skinned a BMP is to be
able to think "heavy tank" when we see the Maus :-(

Later,

I knew it had to be one of those "B" type soviet vehicles.

Where did I get BRDM from?

> From: "Casquilho, Daniel" <Daniel.Casquilho@disney.com>

Seems to me, that when it's a BMP that 'big' it mightm ake a difference. I
thing that the BMP has the right hull shape for a hover tank and that's why it
was chosen.

Eli

> but I and my

The issue for me comes down to what I *see* when they look at the kitbash. If
all I can see is a BMP with some other odds and ends added then I dislike it.
If on the otherhand I see a good looking vehicle, but with a little effort I
can see how they arrived at the kitbash I do not mind.
        If you want to see some interesting Sci-Fi kit bashes go to:

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/

Look at their readers Gallery. Some of the spaceships and vehicles are great.
Of course some are not. Anyway, enjoy.

                Daniel

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> At 12:38 14/03/01 -0500, you wrote:

Check out

http://www.salute.co.uk/slammers3/

all explained there under 'full kit bash'

Casquilho, Daniel

> The issue for me comes down to what I *see* when they look at

Same here. I've seen too many real-world "let's put an MBT turret on an
APC"-style vehicles - eg. the CV90105/CV90120, TAMSE and Centauro, and
far too many BMPs (though unlike some of my opponents I haven't spent
6+ months crawling around *inside* BMP the Swedish Army's BMPs <g>) to
not see the Maus as a BMP with some other odds and ends stuck on top. A couple
of seconds is *too* little effort to see how they built it to me
:-(

As to what Eli said about a BMP hull that big, well - everyone knows,
or should know, that size isn't important. It's what you do with it
that matters :-/

Regards,