SG non penetrating hits on size two and above vehicles

2 posts ยท Sep 16 1999 to Sep 16 1999

From: Robertson, Brendan <Brendan.Robertson@d...>

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:30:05 +1000

Subject: RE: SG non penetrating hits on size two and above vehicles

The size of the vehicle is irrelevant when it comes to infantry fire in SG.
The important part is the vehicle's Armour, which is not always the same.
Armour 0 or 1 is the equivalent of your average truck or steel plate
(respectively). Small arms fire cannot hurt armour 2 or above (you could still
suppress the target, but this has little effect on MBTs in SG).
With regard to non-penetrating hits, I think you could presume that the
drives and sensors have at least minimal armour to protect them from small
arms (non-deflatable tyres, self sealing hoverskirts, armoured glass
etc),
but are no defence against anti-vehicle weapons.  The armour 0 & 1
vehicles wouldn't bother with these systems to cut costs or not worry about
armouring these areas more than the main body of the vehicle.

'Neath Southern Skies - http://users.mcmedia.com.au/~denian/

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From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:26:19 -0400

Subject: RE: SG non penetrating hits on size two and above vehicles

It is armour not size that determines weapon hit effects/limitations.

If by infantry weapon you mean small arms - ie the rifles, grenades and
SAW's of a typical rifle squad, there can be no damage at all:

p37 Firing Small Arms at Point Targets:

"...if the target is of armour class 2 or better, there can be NO EFFECT other
than the supression..."

and that section goes on to detail what happens for small arms hits on armour
class 1 or less.

If by "infantry weapon" you refer to infantry fired missiles, which could
include everything up to a GMS/H depending on circumstance (not likely
the
GMS/H, which will be predominantly vehicle mounted, like the TOW system
today).  Certainly GMS/L systems might be infantry carried (like the
European HOT system or the new American Javelin). With all these weapons
there is certainly the effect of non-penetrating hits - after all, by
that it means you are hitting the least armoured bits of the vehicle.

The damage isn't automatic, though, unless you roll a SYSTEMS hit, and that is
only a 1 in 6 chance. If you roll a SUSPENSION hit, you still have to make an
opposed roll vs the weapon's impact value. This is detailed on
page 39 of the rulebook, in the section "Non-Penetrating Hits on
Vehicles"

And yes it give infantry weapons a 1 in 3 chance of possibly damaging the
vehicle on a non-penetrating hit - but so they should.  Wheels and
tracks are rather vulnerable targets, as are antennae and optics.

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