This is actually a couple of questions rolled into one subject.
I understand that a weapon with multiple weapons can fire them all at one
target in one action. Does each weapon get a separate fire control? In other
words, does each weapon roll separate fire con and quality dice, or does the
vehicle get one roll like a squad with multiple weapons?
Second question: If a vehicle has a SAW mounted as a weapon, is its impact
rolled as a d8 like other vehicle mounted weapons or does it get its own
impact roll?
1. Only 1 firecontrol in total; fire the barrels together (as per
Dirtside). Roll 1 x FC die for each barrel + Q die (eg: 2 barrels with
enh
FC + regular = 3d8 attack roll)
2. Vehicle SAWs use the same Impact value as the infantry weapons of your
army. (usually d10 or d12).
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> -----Original Message-----
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:58:33 -0800 (PST), Cleats Balentine
> <kevinbalentine@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Second question: If a vehicle has a SAW mounted as a
It uses the impact die for a SAW as defined under the infantry support weapons
section.
> I understand that a weapon with multiple weapons
You mean a vehicle with multiple weapons, right?:)
can
> fire them all at one target in one action. Does each
Firing heavy weapons costs one action per weapon fired. So, for example, if
you had a tank with a main gun, coaxial mg, commander's mg on a pintel
mount, and a GMS/L system in a separate turret-top mount, you could only
fire ONE of these weapons for any one fire action.
Check out page 16 of the rulebook, in the section labelled "Available
Actions".
The only time you can fire two weapons from a vehicle with the same action is
if you had multiple weapons of the same type in the same mount (multiple
barrels, as it were). For example, a quad-mg AA turret, would fire all
four weapons at the same time. But in the example I gave, you couldn't fire
the main gun, the coaxial mg and the GMS system all together in one action.
If you do have multiple barreled weapons (the quad AA turret), then use one FC
die for each barrel, and the quality die of the firer.
I think we argued this one out on the list a while ago, 'cause some people
thought that it doesn't make sense to roll more than one FC for a single
fire action - the multiple weapons are all targeted on the same spot in
space, and therefore if one hit, they should all hit. It doesn't make sense
for a twin HEL mount to have one beam hit the target while the other missed,
when the designers would probably try hard to get the beams to impact the same
spot to maximize armour penetration... That argument then followed with the
idea that you should roll a single FC die, but damage from each barrel
separately. Or in the case of the HEL, that the overall damage should be
doubled for the shot. And so on... I can't remember what the consensus was at
the end of the discussion, as a number of people thought that it was perfectly
plausible for two barrels to NOT target the exact same spot, and the two FC
rolls would account for the slight variability in the system.
> Second question: If a vehicle has a SAW mounted as a
Vehicle mounted heavy weapons firing on dispersed targets (ie infantry) use d8
impact. A SAW is not a heavy weapon, so it uses it's normal impact value. So
if you fire at an infantry squad with a Gauss SAW (mounted coaxial), it would
do d12 impact, but if you fired the Size 4 DFFG main gun at the same squad, it
would only do d8 impact (but would do d12 x 8 impact vs another vehicle...).
Seems a bit odd doesn't it? We've argued about this one lots too. And the
problem that comes up when you have a SAW that is coaxially mounted firing
with a basic FC system versus the pintel mounted SAW on the turret top. The
pintel mounted weapon uses the Firepower of the weapon and the Quality of the
firer. So if the firer were of Regular quality, the weapon would fire with
(usually) a d10 firepower,
and the d8 quality. The same weapon mounted in the turret on the Basic
FC vehicle would fire with a d6 and a d8. Tom B and others have argued that it
doesn't make sense for the pintel mounted SAW (or, in fact, the infantry
carried SAW which would have the same stats) to be more effective than the
coax SAW, when the coax would be in a MUCH steadier mount... This
discussion was recent - couple weeks ago I think.
If you have other vehicle mounted weapons that are not "Heavy" weapons, like
an automatic grenade launcher for example, they use the regular weapon impact
stats, and aren't limited to d8's. Only the Heavy weapons are.