[SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

7 posts ยท Jan 20 2001 to Jan 23 2001

From: Christopher Downes-Ward <Christopher_Downes-Ward@a...>

Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:43:08 -0000

Subject: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

Here's something I've been knocking up in my spare time. Brickbats welcome but
the TOE of the infantry company is based around the models I have which
explains some of the equipment. The idea was based around having a single ship
which had plenty of different options for the kind of scenarios it could get
involved in. The ship it self in FT scenarios, the entire company in Dirtside
sceanrios either on its own or coopertating with other forces and the
spearhead platoon and power armour recon units in Stargunt.

The Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser.

The Jumna class is best appreciated by considering it's role first and in
particular what it is not. it is NOT a line of battle vessel despite being
built on a hull the same size as many Battle Cruisers. It is intended for
independent show the flag and colonial policing and piracy suppression
operations in areas where it is not likely to meet "main force" opposition.

Jumna Class=Battlecruiser (BC) TMF=102 NPV=328 FTL=Standard MD=4 Armour=2
HullIntegrity=Average - 30%
HullPoints=31 HullTrack=8,8,8,7 StreamLining=Partial CrewFactor=6
CrewLine1=1,5 CrewLine2=1,3 CrewLine3=2,1,7 CrewLine4=2,5,6 FCS=2
FighterBays=1 PDSs=1 Sensors=Standard CargoSpace=1 PassengerSpace=2
Hangars=1x Size2 - carries 2 size 1 Tactical Interface Transports
Weapons Class 3 Battery=F, FP, FS Class 2 Battery=F, FP, FS Ortillery System

The Jumna also has drop tubes for 6 power armour troopers.

The Jumna embarks a complete Naval infantry company organised as follows
(Dirtside): HQ 1 HQ team and a jeep 1 FO team and a jeep 1 PA (recon) squad of
2 x 3 man PA teams 1st (light mechanised) "spearhead" platoon 3 x light
mechanised squads of 1 M38 LIPPC 1 x 1M44 LIPFSV 2nd and 3rd (light) Platoons
1 HQ Squad of 1 rifle team + 1 APSW team
3 Rifle squads of 1 rifle team + 1 APSW team
1 x 1M44 LIPFSV

This unit is intended to act as stiffening to local militia forces. The three
M44's could be organised as a light armoured platoon to add some "punch".
Normal deployment would be for the PA to orbitally insert and be followed up
by the transports carrying either the one of the light platoons, the FO team
and the HQ team or carrying two M38's and their passengers. Of course if the
whole company can ride down in adminstrative shuttles to a nice comfy starport
and then borrow some trucks so much the better.

In stargrunt terms the "Spearhead" and recon PA are rated as follows

Recon Squad
Identical to the Power-Armoured Infantry Squad on P69 of Stargrunt II

"spearhead" platoon 3 M38 LIPPC's, 1 M44 LIPFSV 1st and 2nd Squads
1 squad leader and 2 riflemen with KI-72
1 SAW gunner with RK-80
3rd Squad
1 squad leader and 2 riflemen with KI-72
1 GMS/P gunner with AT-17 "sandbox"

See P69 of Stargrunt II for weapon stats.

M38 Light Interface Portable Personnel Carrier (LIPPC) Size 2
Armour 2/1
CFE Engine Mobility = High Mobility Wheeled (10)
RFAC/1 in Turret (Enhanced Firecon)
GMS/L in Turret (Enhanced Firecon)
Amphibious 1 Infantry team 73 Points

M44 Light Interface Portable Fire Support Vehicle (LIPFSV) Size 2
Armour 2/1
CFE Engine Mobility = High Mobility Wheeled (10)
RFAC/2 in Turret (Enhanced Firecon)
RFAC/1 in Turret (Enhanced Firecon)
GMS/L in Turret (Enhanced Firecon)
77 Points

Known Problems:

There are only two Assault shuttles, each capable of carrying one size 2
vehicle + passengers OR 16 troops. This means that it takes two waves to
land an entire platoon with its vehicles.

In order to give tactical transport to the two light platoons they have to
scrounge vehicles locally.

From: Robert W. Hofrichter <RobHofrich@p...>

Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:42:03 -0500

Subject: Re: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

I did a much lighter version of this kind of vessel for my Dutch--it is
classed as a Colonial Cruiser.  Designed for independant operations--and
carrying a Royal Dutch Marine Company. And yes, it is streamlined, too.

Firepower on par with a small destroyer, slightly better defenses than most
DD, but still capable of carrying the troops. It carried NO interface
assault landers--that's why the vessel was streamlined.

I can't say it was a very efficient design. It was designed for police
operations and show-the-flag kind of missions.  And it did let you move
some troops in a manner that was better protected and faster than most light
transports...

Rob

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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:45:09 -0800

Subject: Re: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

> The Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser.
opposition.
> Jumna

ONE point defense system, and no Beam-1's?  What are you going to do
about enemy fighters?

> Hangars=1x Size2 - carries 2 size 1 Tactical Interface Transports

You need a Mass 3 hanger to carry 2 mass of transports.

> Weapons

This seems a bit light--to put it mildly.

> The Jumna also has drop tubes for 6 power armour troopers.

Is that "six at a time", or "six total", which hardly seems worthwhile.

> The Jumna embarks a complete Naval infantry company organised as

Is this supposed to be carried in the Cargo-1 and Passenger-2?

> There are only two Assault shuttles, each capable of carrying one

Which means you'd better not try a hot landing--against any opposition
more sophisticated than farmers + rifles, your first couple of squads
will be gone before your second delivery gets down. In fact, thinking
of the Boers, they might have a problem dealing with farmers+
rifles....

All told and assuming your math adds up, I'd say you've loaded the ship with
too many missions in mind, resulting in a design which can't really do
anything well. Of course, there have been RealWorld designs like that, but you
may nonetheless want to split it into two smaller
ships as BIF suggested--say a special ops or assault cruiser and a
normal CE.

If you want to keep it as one ship, I'd consider dropping the ortillery, the
streamlining, and the B3, and add more landers, B2, and

From: Christopher Downes-Ward <Christopher_Downes-Ward@a...>

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:31:55 -0000

Subject: Re: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

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From: Christopher Downes-Ward <Christopher_Downes-Ward@a...>

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:43:02 -0000

Subject: Re: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

I've tweaked the design slightly, it's now smaller and carries more beam
weapons and has a single screen, it's even slightly cheaper.

Name=Jumna Class=Battlecruiser (BC) TMF=94 NPV=311 FTL=Standard MD=4 Armour=2
HullIntegrity=Average - 30%
HullPoints=28 HullTrack=7,7,7,7 CrewFactor=5 CrewLine1=1,5 CrewLine2=1,4
CrewLine3=1,3 CrewLine4=2,2,6 FCS=2 FighterBays=1 Screens=1 PDSs=2
Sensors=Standard CargoSpace=1 PassengerSpace=2 Hangars=1 mass 3 sizeed for two
mass 1 shuttles Weapons=5 Class 3 Battery=FP, F, FS Class 1 Battery=2 Class 2
Battery=RP, FP, F

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:50:55 -0800

Subject: Re: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

> CrewLine1=1,5

I believe this should be (using your notation):
1,6 - meaning the crew is in "box 6"
1,5 1,4
2,3,7
...but as I pointed out in my other post, it's much more clear to write as:
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From: Christopher Downes-Ward <Christopher_Downes-Ward@a...>

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:19:01 -0000

Subject: Re: [SG][DS][FT] Jumna Class Patrol Cruiser and Naval Infantry Company

> >CrewLine1=1,5

Chris