[SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

6 posts ยท Mar 28 2001 to Nov 28 2001

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:21:08 -0500

Subject: RE: [SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

OK. I thought that I encluded enough disclaimers, but obviously not.

First let me indicate what I am NOT speaking (typing?) of. 1) I am not
refering to Power Armor. I am making the assumption that most PA is
environmentally sealed and designed for a variety of conditions. I am also
taking for grated that PA troops are highly trained in the use of the armor.
Now if you have inferior PA, poorly trained troops, or PA that is at the end
of its endurance (filters need cleaned, low on oxygen, power low, etc.) or is
breached, it may be another thing all together. 2) Vehicles. Hopefully the
vehicles have been adapted for the conditions. If not, there may be some
adverse conditions. 3) Troops that have been stationed in this environment for
an extended period of time. 4) Untrained troops. I am inquiring about troops
with training for the conditions. Howerver, it takes some time to aclimate
one's self. Also, even with good training, people tend to minimize or ignore
procedures that are ackward or uncomfortable (until the casualty list starts
to grow, then the wisdom of following the procedure is suddenly more clear).

What I meant to indicate is when non-PA troops are inserted from one
environment to another without adequite time to adapt to the new conditions.

Examples: Going from Hot to Cold or Cold to Hot. Going from Dry to Humid or
Humid to Dry
Going from High to Low Oxygen/Atmosphere or Low to High
Oxygen/Atmosphere
Going from a friendly environment to one where an Environment or NBC suit is
required.

What would be a good modifier to apply to unaclimated troops? I suggested
shifting the quality down 1. Any other suggestions?

What would be a good amount of time to indicate that a unit is aclimated to
local conditions? Part of it would depend on the difficulty of the conditions.
Environmental Changes: Change Aclimation Time Treat Level Retest Period
Nominal None             No Test     N/A
Minor   1 week           +1          Each Day
Major   1 month          +2          Each Week
Severe  6 months         +3          Each Month
When troops first arrive in the new environment, they make a quality test at
x2 the environmental change threat level. If they succeed, training and
leadership allow the unit to function as normal. If they fail, they have thier
quality shifted down 1 until aclimated. After the retest period, they may test
again (at normal threat level). If they succeed, they are restored to normal
quality level. If they fail they continue to operate under a
down-shifted quality. At the end of the Aclimation Time, all units use
normal quality (even if they fail every test).

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From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:13:27 -0500

Subject: RE: [SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

Greetings!

Yes, I did read your whole post (thanks).

Yes, by severe I was thinking that it would be a situation where a unit would
have to have environmental suits just to survive (hydrogen atmosphere, extreme
ocean depths, vacuum, nuclear hot zone, etc.).

For Major, I was thinking of going from a low gravity, low atmosphere world to
a heavy gravity, high density atmosphere world. Or going from Tropics to
Artic with no stop-over.

Yes. These suggestions could be used for unexpected changes to the
environment (like loosing gravity and/or atmosphere on a breached space
station).

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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:06:59 -0500

Subject: Re: [SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

Beth said:
> To extend this one step further how would you deal with it in a game

ah HA! another person interested in combat in a normal environment! But don't
forget vacuum.

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:45:54 +1000

Subject: RE: [SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

G'day Brian,

> Yes, by severe I was thinking that it

Interesting sites for a battle;)

> For Major, I was thinking of going

Yep I'd rate that as pretty major....went Scottish highlands mid winter
blizzard to Townsville mid-summer heat wave (temperature jump of around
60 deg C) in 32 hours about 10 years back. Not something I recommend!!! I
wasn't laid out by it, but I wasn't feeling that great either;)

Cheers

Beth

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:55:31 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

> --- Laserlight <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:

Well, for vacuum I generally assume the entire ship's company is in vacc suits
and goes into combat with the atmosphere stored or just evacuated, in order to
prevent explosive decompression.

As for artificial G, everyone is strapped into acceleration couches except for
DCPs and those are in
exoskeletons simillar to stripped-down power armor.

I'm not too worried.

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:56:07 +1100

Subject: RE: [SG] Climate/Environment Aclamation

G'day Brian,

> What would be a good modifier to

Hopefully you read the rest of my post yesterday and didn't give up in
exasperation at the "IAS doesn't = cold" line;)

I really do think your suggestion is a sound one. I'd upper it another level
for really fast changes in environment, especially for green troops. Another
thought is that those with little motivation or morale (backbone) should get
shifts down too. So in some circumstances a blue 1 no, but a blue 3 maybe.

> What would be a good amount of time

I honestly don't know. It can also depend on the person. It takes me a long
time to acclimate, but Derek will have it down in under a week.

> Environmental Changes:

Sounds pretty good to me, though it'd have to be REALLY severe to rate as
severe I guess.

To extend this one step further how would you deal with it in a game where
you're fighting in a starship or base station or something and the artifical g
goes out?

Cheers

Beth