(SG)Check those numbers (long)

> Need some help here. Dunno if I'm doin' it right, but I'm designing

You have a size 2 vehicle with 3 weapons plus the "free" APSW. Too many
weapons.

Hmmm...ok then...now I'll have pull out my bible.;) According to Jane's Tanks
and Combat Vehicles Recognition Guide, 2ed. An Austrian SK105 19 tons
(approx,) classified as a Light Tank, has a
105mm, 1x 7.62mm.   ok.
Ah, the Chinese Type 62 "Light Tank" 23 tons, 1x 85mm, 1x 7.62mm coax, 1x
7.62mm (bow) and a 1x 12.7mm AA.
But the French AMX-13 16.5 tons, has 1x 90mm, 1x 7.62mm and 1x 7.62mm
AA. The UK Scorpion Recon Vehicle 1x 76mm, 1x 7.62mm and only weighs 8.8 tons!
Here is the realllly good one.....
The CIS BMD-3    1x 30mm, 1x7.62mm, 1xAT-5, 1x 7.62mm (bow), 1x 40mm
gren lnchr(bow), 1x 5.45mm (bow), and it carries 5 passangers and has a crew
of 2 and weighs 14.5 tons. Go figure? All those weapons on that little
vehicle? Nah...really?:) My point is this, that unless one knows what a class
2 vehicle is, how can one to say, " Too many weapons." I didn't mention the
"free APSW" because I didn't put it on the vehicle. So it's still only three
weapons. Yes I understand that this is Science Fiction, but we only have
reality based things to go from. Who's to say that a "such and such Main
Battle
Tank" can only have 3 weapons?  I don't believe that the above BMD-3
would be considered a MBT. Not weighing in at only 14.5 tons, when an M1 comes
in at a whopping 59.9 tons! Would stand to say, that:
 Class-1 up to 10 tons?     "(very small)"
Class-2 10-25 tons?         "(Small)"
Class-3 25-50 tons?          "(Medium)"
Class-4 50-70 tons?          "(Large)"
Class-5 70 and up?            "(Very Large)"
All this before coffee, egads! I just thought I'd run the numbers on the
vehicle I'm making, before I finish it. Wasn't sure if I did the math right or
not. All the rule book says is that you can't put a weapon of a higher class
on a lower class vehicle. ie. a motorbike with a MDC. "'ere hold 'dis while
I'z aim!" visions of a 40k orc warbike...."shudder" bad thought, bad thought.

> At 9:24 AM -0700 7/9/01, David L. Dunn - DLD Productions wrote:

> The CIS BMD-3 1x 30mm, 1x7.62mm, 1xAT-5, 1x 7.62mm (bow), 1x 40mm

Understood. Look at the Merkava example I later gave. 4Mgs, a 60mm mortar and
a 105 or 120mm gun. Or the Ontos, 6 105mm RRS and 2.50 cal spotting rifles,
easily a size two tracked vehicle.

Think of things from the designers perspective. Why would they add that second
weapon? In the merkava the MGs are to give additional
long range and short range anti-infantry Fire power. The mortar is
for illumination rounds and for AP/HE rounds against targets behind
defilade.

The Ontos was built as a light support vehicle that could get multiple shots
off against a target before reloading the RRs.

Figure out what the mfg is trying to do with the additional weapons. Why have
two close range weapons? A close and long range weapon make sense.

> My point is this, that unless one knows what a class 2 vehicle is, how

> Class-1 up to 10 tons? "(very small)"

Don't confuse size with mass. A vehicle could be very large and not weigh that
much. A size 3 truck likely doesn't weigh up to 50 tons.

A Ferret Scout car weighs in at just as much as a Deuce and a Half, but isn't
nearly as big. Don't tell me that you can put 2 squads of infantry on a Ferret
like you can a 2.5 Ton truck.