SFSFW- U.S.

For anone whos interested,

I've been in contact with Steve Blease who heads up the Socoety For Fantasy
and Science Fiction Wargaming about starting a U.S. chapter. He's pretty

positive about it.

I could use some input. What does everone think?

I think they have a web site, but I don't remember what it is. Can you send it
out so we can see what they do? Thanks, Nils

[quoted original message omitted]

http://steve.pugh.net/SFSFW/default.html

is the actual home page

Thanks guys. The SFSFW might be something I'd like to join.

[quoted original message omitted]

> I think they have a web site, but I don't remember what it is. Can you

Nils,

I included below a post Sean Schoonmaker sent out a couple months ago about
SFSFW (this is for Nils and any others who may have missed it; yeah, yeah,
it's in the archives, I know, but that means more searching, and heck, I
just happened to have saved the msg myself in one of my few easy-to-find
folders:). Their website is:

   http://www.tonyfrancis.free-online.co.uk/brigadeframes.htm

Mk
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From:   IN%"gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU" 15-JUN-1999 22:38:33.00
To:     IN%"gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU"
Subj: RE: Brigade Models in US?

> Does anyone know of a source for Brigade Models in North America?

Brigade will ship overseas. I have ordered from them once or twice. However,
you do need a SFSFW(US) membership...

How to get one??

Please find details below on the SFSFW which is currently entering its sixth
year. This year we have finally come up with a system to allow US gamers to
pay in US funds...

THE SOCIETY OF FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION WARGAMERS

The Society of Fantasy and Science Fiction Wargamers is an independent
international organisation with members on all continents of the world. Now
thanks to the efforts of one of our US members we are now able to offer gamers
in North America the chance to join the Society without having to go through
the hassle of obtaining international money orders in pounds sterling, now we
can handle ordinary checks in US dollars.

Jed Docherty will now collect North American subscriptions and transfer them
to the SFSFW en masse, cutting down on currency conversion costs and reducing
the cost of subscription in North America to the same price as Europe.

If you wish to join the Society please print off the subscription form below
and post it to Jed at the address shown along with your check. Your membership
will then be processed in England as normal and your Society membership
details etc sent to you by the Membership Secretary.

If you have any questions concerning membership you can either email Jed on:

JDoch226@aol.com

or the membership secretary on:

karen_blease@yahoo.com

If you mail either, please put "SFSFW" in your header...

To give you some idea of the contents of Ragnarok, issue 29 (the last of the
last subscription period) 76pp contained the following articles:

The Cauldron - Hobby News Column
Patlabor: South Sea Asia 1999 - Mecha Carnage scenario based on the
anime film.
Storm Clouds Gather - a Fantasy Warriors scenario
Smoking Talons - a Shooting Stars battle report
The Loste Worlde - Dinosaur rules for Flintloque
In Dockyard Hands - rules for starship repairs in Full Thrust
A Rumble in the Jungle - a 19th Century Tarzan scenario for Tusk
An Arresting Development - a Judge Dredd scenario for Hellfire
Mule Train - a Hordes of the Things Game
Fantasy & Sci-Fi wargammers Scribbles - gamers column
5th Annual SFSFW Awards - awards details
Patrick Tilley's Amtrak Wars - gaming possibilities from the books
The Melting Pot - ten pages of miniatures reviews from Games Workshop to
GZG to Lancashire Games
The Rules of War - detailed rules reviews of Great Rail Wars, Ranke &
Vyle, Combat Zone and Full Thrust Fleet Book: Volume One
Crossfire - readers letters

Issue 30 is currently being complied and will (on the SF side of things)
contain an article on introducing Hammer's Slammers into SG2 and other
games by JMT, a 1960's UFO v USAF scenario and an article on non-lethal
weaponry in FT as well as the usual reviews, news and other columns.

SUBSCRIPTION FORM:

Subscriptions for the Society of Fantasy and Science Fiction Wargamers run for
a four issue period. Membership of the Society entitles members to the
following benefits:

ISSUES 30 to 33 of RAGNAROK
- The Journal of Fantasy and Science Fiction Wargaming

NASTROND
- This Subscription Periods supply of the SFSFW Bulletin

DISCOUNTS from a wide range of companies including Ground Zero Games,
Pendraken, Irregular Miniatures, Peter Pig, POP Enterprises, Adler Miniatures,
Wessex Games and a host of others

SFSFW Exclusive Models
- access to a range of high quality and low priced exclusive SemFed FT
Society models

Free entry to BIFROST
- the SFSFW Open Day

Please sign me up.......

> Fabet@aol.com wrote:

This sounds like an interesting idea, but I'm a little fuzzy on the actual
implementation of it.

Some questions:

1. How is the society organized? 2. How does it accomplish it's goal of
promoting wargaming? 3. Are there dues, and if so what is done with them? 4.
Are there societal standards and guidelines?

Brushman

Fabet@aol.com on 08/12/99 11:36:44 AM

Please respond to gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

  To:          gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

  cc:          (bcc: Bill Brush/InfSys/Revenue)

  Subject      SFSFW- U.S.
:

For anone whos interested,

I've been in contact with Steve Blease who heads up the Socoety For Fantasy
and Science Fiction Wargaming about starting a U.S. chapter. He's pretty
positive about it.

I could use some input. What does everone think?

Most of the answers are on the SFSFW web page

> 1. How is the society organized?

Pres, Sec, treasurer - the usual suspects

> 2. How does it accomplish it's goal of promoting wargaming?

web, soc. magazine, shows, articles

> 3. Are there dues, and if so what is done with them?

yes they finance the soc. magazine & annual show
http://www.bifrost.org.uk/
(way cool logo) & soc. overheads and Steve's yacht in the Bahamas ;-).

> 4. Are there societal standards and guidelines?

not as such IIRC, there are submission guidlines for the rag, basically no
palgarising or copytheft.

Ok this spawns some more questions.

1. Assuming there is a US chapter of SFSFW, would they have their own
officers? 2. Are there local "groups" that work together for shows or is it
every man for himself? 3. Would the dues from the US chapter go to support the
UK show or would there be US show(s)? (JMO, but if there's going to be a US
chapter, then there should almost certainly be at least one US show,
preferably more seeing as how it's not exactly an easy thing to pull people
from the hinterlands of the US to one location)

Brushman

"Tim Jones" <Tim.Jones@Smallworld.co.uk> on 08/13/99 09:18:10 AM

Please respond to gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

  To:          gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

  cc:          (bcc: Bill Brush/InfSys/Revenue)

  Subject      RE: SFSFW- U.S.
:

Most of the answers are on the SFSFW web page

> 1. How is the society organized?

Pres, Sec, treasurer - the usual suspects

> 2. How does it accomplish it's goal of promoting wargaming?

web, soc. magazine, shows, articles

> 3. Are there dues, and if so what is done with them?

yes they finance the soc. magazine & annual show
http://www.bifrost.org.uk/
(way cool logo) & soc. overheads and Steve's yacht in the Bahamas ;-).

> 4. Are there societal standards and guidelines?

not as such IIRC, there are submission guidlines for the rag, basically no
palgarising or copytheft.

-= tim jones =-

> Ok this spawns some more questions.

Probably, I'd ask Steve Blease.

> 2. Are there local "groups" that work together for shows or

In the UK there are regional coordinators. Look at the show web site to see
how its organised. Basically if you step up for it you can do it. People
organise on an ad hoc basis (who knows who).

> 3. Would the dues from the US chapter go to support the UK

I would have thought a protion of subs would go towards
a Bifrost-US, it unlikely anyone is going to travel
trans-continental to the UK Bifrost.

> exactly an easy thing to pull people from the hinterlands of

yes this would be difficult as the west coast is about the same order of
distance as the UK to the east coast.

It would all depend on membership.

Thanks to everone for their input to the SFSFW question.

First I want to emphasis to everyone that this is just an idea at the moment
and I have to iron out a lot of details.

If you haven't checked out the website yet, go to:

http://steve.pugh.net/SFSFW/default.html
 <A HREF="http://steve.pugh.net/SFSFW/default.html">The Society of
Fantasy &
Science Fiction Warg...</A>

My concept right now is I would buy memberships from the U.K. and reissue them
here. Along with this membership should come at least the subscribtion to
Ragnarok. If this is sent from England or copies reproduced here in the U.S.
needs to be determined. Anyone who wishes to submit articles can send them to
me and I'll get them to the U.K. or the can be sent direct. Eventually I'd
like to see a U.S. edition, ideally including the U.K. articles. We should
also have access to any models produced for the society. Hopefully I'll be
able to import these to my shop in Fairfax VA. Hopefully there will be no
import or copyright issues involved.

I'd like to avoid the whole club officer thing if possible. The politicing and
infighting I've seen in one particular U.S. national club leads me to believe
there's really nothing to gain from it.

As far as standards, there really doesn't seem to be any. The goal of the
organization is to promote Fantasy and Sci-Fi, especially alternatives
(but not excluding Games Workshop). The efforts of man of the members on this
list are actually some of the best standards and goals I can conceive of
(example: Mark Kotche and the GZGCon). Prehaps the purpose of a U.S. chapter
is just to formalize the efforts and gain some benifits from it as do U.K.
members.

Faron;

Having worked for the unmentioned national club I can see why we do not need
that type of organization. Maybe we could have an "colonial" edition of the
newsletter with this side of the pond. Let the UK keep the club officers and
politics.

ps: I'll try to make it to the shop, class have me going in early so I can get
some sleep Friday. Only two more to go:). howdy hoo

> Fabet@aol.com wrote:
Hopefully
> there will be no import or copyright issues involved.
members.
> Faron Betchley