SF Sniper rifle

5 posts · Jul 10 2002 to Jul 11 2002

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:52:22 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: SF Sniper rifle

A cool-looking sniper rifle that could be right out of the GZG
catalog:
http://www.amp-ts.com/Deutsch/Marksmannrifels/DSR/dsr.html
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm

Greeetings

From: Richard Kirke <richardkirke@h...>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:23:42 +0000

Subject: Re: SF Sniper rifle

On the topic of futuristic looking Sniper rifles, I was at Army 2002 recently
(British army shows off its kit day) and apart formthe artillery demo (MLRS
and challenger II firing amoung others, it was cool) the Apache flyby etc, the
trade stands had some intersting kit.

Including a high velocity rifle designed for damaging external equipment on
AFVs, radar etc. It was a South African company the name of which excapes me,
but they were £16,000 each. Anyone thought how that could be modled for SG?

Richard

> From: KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:46:25 -0400

Subject: Re: SF Sniper rifle

> At 10:23 AM +0000 7/11/02, Richard Kirke wrote:

> Including a high velocity rifle designed for damaging external

Yeah, A HAMR. Its already in the rules..50 cal is pretty big but has a lower
velocity than some other rounds..55 Boyes was a killer round.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:31:52 -0400

Subject: Re: SF Sniper rifle

> At 10:23 AM +0000 7/11/02, Richard Kirke wrote:

> Including a high velocity rifle designed for damaging external

Ryan said:
> Yeah, A HAMR. Its already in the rules. .50 cal is pretty big but has

I know TomB is busy so I'll reply for him. Tom feels that a.50 should be
more like 2d8 or so.  A HAMR should be more like .60-.80 (15-20mm) with
special ammo. He posted something to that effect back in...April? Title
of the post was something like "SAW/GMPG/HMG"

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:13:20 -0400

Subject: Re: SF Sniper rifle

> At 11:31 AM -0400 7/11/02, laserlight@quixnet.net wrote:
Title
> of the post was something like "SAW/GMPG/HMG"

Modern.50 or something with better ballistics, better penetration, better
terminal effects, better barrel technology, better powder technology....

Compare and contrast 1800's era.50s with 2000's era.50s. Some things have
changed. Especially with bullet technology and tailoring their terminal
effects. If it's a dedicated anti material round, 100 years from now, a.50
round could likely have some pretty fancy effects. Sub miniature fuzes,
explosive effects, EMP effects, etc.

.55 Boyes out performs.50 BMG on ballistics alone. Were it not a DD under
current US laws, I'd expect to see some pretty fancy development with that
caliber and cartridge. The driving force behind.50 accuracy for a long time
was private development in the shooting community. Not at defense contractors
and military bases. If people had the option of playing more with the larger
calibers, I'd really expect to see more development paths that the defense
guys don't follow.