SAWS and point systems

3 posts ยท Apr 5 2002 to Apr 6 2002

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:32:26 -0500

Subject: SAWS and point systems

1) Point systems:
Yes, a capacity-only point system could work, but it needs a mechanism
for miniaturization to allow construction of minis that don't match...

Cap only system is one way to go (hard to get right), points only is
another (hard but not as hard to get right), and cap + points is (as OO
pointed out) harder by x4 to get right.

2) John said: Depends on the ammo. The "advanced" rifles (binary propulsion,
ETC, Liquip prop, etc) or heavy rifles (7.62 NATO) would be d10, but small
rounds (7.62x39, 5.56 NATO, etc) would be d8.

[Tomb]
Yes, agreed though I was suggesting that the LSAW has impact to match the
rifle (which, it it happens to be an AAR is nominally D10). If you have older
or different rounds that are d8, then a matching tech saw firing the same
round should be. (BTW a point no one has mentioned is if
an LMG liberates more FPS at the barrel than a rifle - the same round
out of two different barrels may have different performance stats, but
the granularity is probably sub-SG level).

John further said (re HMG):
> 5)HMG (Battletech Kurita HMG, etc)

I like Imp d12*, HMMV. But I'd also say FP d10 since they have a lower ROF.

[Tomb] Tried that two. Prefered a little higher impact.... my D12s tend
to end up on 1.:) But 2d6* wouldn't be bad. Or 2d8* or D16*. RoF D10 would be
fine if all that was represented in FP is ROF. If so, why do HAMRs etc. have
high FP? FP represents both. D10 works, but so does D12.

John further said:
> 6) Minigun (Gatling SAW)

Really that's more appropriate for a vehicle-mounted
rotary LMG/MMG.

[Tomb] Ummm, as a rule I'd have to agree. Except for J. Ventura in
Predator. Or should I say "Governor Jesse Sir!"?:)

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:52:02 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: SAWS and point systems

> --- Tomb <tomb@dreammechanics.com> wrote:

> - the same round

Very much true.

> But 2d6* wouldn't be bad. Or 2d8* or D16*. RoF D10

HAMR is also a very precise weapons system. Taking out exactally 1 target is a
different ball game from having the potential to hose down half a squad. Of
course, IMNSHO a lot of people want to whip out HAMRs rather frequently. They
should be pretty rare unless your scenario involves special operations forces.

From: DAWGFACE47@w...

Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:04:37 -0600 (CST)

Subject: Re: SAWS and point systems

i agree with JOHN about limiting the proliferation of HAMRs!

special operations forces only should be toting these about, and not every
squaddie in the known galaxy!