Savasku ships

4 posts ยท Jun 27 2005 to Jun 27 2005

From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:29:19 +0100

Subject: Savasku ships

The first paragraph is the question, everything else is just hot air.

Sorry for going of topic (and if anyones offended I'm sure ignoring me will
work) but since Savasku ship are grown and not built shouldn't (or rather
couldn't) they repair themselves by "feeding on other space debris (enemy
ships are included) by means of a connecting device that allows them to pump
stomach acids into the target, dissolve it and then take what they needed.

Before somebody suggests that this is NOT a new idea, I know since I borrowed
it (the only thing I borrowed) from another game since I've always like the
idea of a race that could only survive by advancing since they only left dead
worlds behind them. Instead of your supplies keeping up with you, you have to
keep up with your supplies (they just don't know it yet).

Wether you class it as a hive fleet (WH40K), night brood (silent death),

bugs (starship troopers), the aliens in independence day or any of a large
choice of others, the idea of a mobile society (or should that be a plague of
locusts) makes for an entirely new challenge in a campaign game since if you
lose a battle you CANNOT sit back on the defensive and recover you strength,
you have to attack (preferably someone weak enough to to be easily crushed).

I accept that at a certain point, a successful player will have an enormous
fleet that will be nigh on invincible (but then everybody else deserves what
they get if they don't become allies and crush it quickly since it isn't

exactly a secret as to its goals or tactics).

From: Oerjan Ariander <oerjan.ariander@t...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:38:22 +0200

Subject: Re: Savasku ships

> Adrian wrote:

> ...since Savasku ship are grown and not built shouldn't (or rather

> pump stomach acids into the target, dissolve it and then take what they

Yes, but unless the "debris" comes in the form of already-processed
biomass (eg. SV Drones) and is absorbed via a womb this regrowth takes much
longer than the time represented by a single Full Thrust battle. Let's call
it,

oh, say around one biomass box regrown in a couple hundred FT game turns or so
if all the ship has to feed on is space debris from human and Kra'Vak

ships, possibly a bit less (perhaps one biomass box per a hundred and fifty FT
game turns) if feeding on debris from Phalon ships.

> Wether you class it as a hive fleet (WH40K), night brood (silent

If your ships can grow (or regrow) by eating debris from enemy spaceships,
they can also grow (or regrow) by grazing in the nearest asteroid field or
Oort cloud - so the *Sa'Vasku* can easily sit back on the defensive and
regrow their strength after a defeat. Their *enemies* OTOH can't afford to sit
back on the defensive... and unless you're extremely restrictive with the
number of Oort clouds and asteroid belts in your campaign zone, it
probably won't matter if the other players ally to crush the SV - they
also have to *find* the SV before it is too late.

IIRC every star is supposed to have an Oort cloud...

From: VinsFullThrust@a...

Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:07:11 EDT

Subject: Re: Savasku ships

In a message dated 6/27/2005 1:44:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> oerjan.ariander@telia.com writes:

If your ships can grow (or regrow) by eating debris from enemy spaceships,
they can also grow (or regrow) by grazing in the nearest asteroid field or
Oort  cloud - so the *Sa'Vasku* can easily sit back on the defensive and

regrow their strength after a defeat. Their *enemies* OTOH can't afford to sit
back on the defensive... and unless you're extremely restrictive with the
number of Oort clouds and asteroid belts in your campaign zone, it

probably won't matter if the other players ally to crush the SV - they
also have to *find* the SV before it is too late.

IIRC every star is supposed to have an Oort cloud...

/Oerjan
oerjan.ariander@telia.com

"Life is like a sewer. What you get out of it, depends on what you put into
it."
-Hen3ry

Well take this as food for thought... If the human body brweaks a bone, we go
to the hospital to get it set and the human body repairs itself on its own
over time. Not based on what we eat.

I think the SaVasku woudl be the same way. light damage would jsut take time
to heal while esxtinsive damage would require them to find a repair facility,
(aka SaVasku hospital) Given they are an older race, their repait times might
be much faste rthen human capabilities. Makign their ships able to
 return
to the front lines that much quicker. In this fassion, they wont grow out of
cotrol like people would think Vince

"If you can't be an athelete, then be an athletic supporter"

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:23:00 -0400

Subject: Re: Savasku ships

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