RFACs Vs Infantry

5 posts ยท Feb 10 2000 to Feb 11 2000

From: Simon LeRay-Meyer <sleray-meyer@v...>

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:54:06 +1100

Subject: RFACs Vs Infantry

Having played with the vechicles over the last few months, I have found them
to be ineffective against infantry. I thought that FSV like the M163AV would
be more effective against infantry. An idea that I propose is that
the RFAC/1 and only the RFAC/1 is given a D12 impact vs infantry.  This
is based on the assumption that the RFAC is similar to a Vulcan cannon which
lays down a wall of fire. It might not be the best suited against infantry but
when you spit out 6K rounds a minute, its going to hurt. This would
make them worth while to but on gun ships, anti-infantry vehicles and
the like. What do people think?

Slim

From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:45:11 -0500

Subject: Re: RFACs Vs Infantry

> Having played with the vechicles over the last few months, I have found

Well, an RFAC/1 is an autocannon in the 20mm cal range.  I don't like
that these have impact d8 vs. infantry either. If it is a 30mm firing single
shots that are basically explosive (so the troops are taking explosive damage
primarily, not impact damage from the rounds) then that makes more sense. But
if you hose an infantry unit with a Vulcan cannon, it's going to make a big
mess.

In our games, I say the RFAC/1 gets its base impact vs. infantry (d10)
to compensate for the fact that I figure a lot of rounds are being fired.
Larger weapons use the d8 max impact limitation. I use the base impact
(d12) for Gauss autocannons against infantry for the same reason - lots
of rounds impacting the target area.

From: Christopher Pratt <valen10@f...>

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:52:18 -0500

Subject: Re: RFACs Vs Infantry

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From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:14:12 -0500

Subject: Re: RFACs Vs Infantry

> From my reading of the rules, it looked like the fire power die would

You'd think that. But remember, if the weapon is using the vehicle's FC then
it is under some kind of cover (protecting it and the gunner). A SAW, for
example, if mounted in a turret on a vehicle with basic FC would get a d6
firepower, and the same weapon carried by a trooper would get a d10 or so. But
the one on the vehicle gets *armour*....

For the bigger guns, if you're trying to aim your 30mm cannon, using a
basic fc, it probably isn't very "nimble" in it's mountings - and
shooting
at dodging/weaving infantry would be difficult.

From: Michael T Miserendino <MTMiserendino@l...>

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 8:39:00 -0500

Subject: Re: RFACs Vs Infantry

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> to be ineffective against infantry. I thought that FSV like the M163AV

> Well, an RFAC/1 is an autocannon in the 20mm cal range. I don't like

> From a DS2 perspective, I agree that RFACs seem like they could use

weapons. At the Origins War College last year, an Army officer discussed the
effectiveness of AA against infantry, especially in urban conflict. His
discussions focussed I believe on the Russians experience in Grosney. This was
part of an urban warfare class. Very interesting class and very informative.
He made a lot of interesting notes of how most armies are not equipped to
fight in urban conflicts.

One vehicle type he mentioned that would help would be armored supply vehicles
for refueling and bringing in supplies. The Russians had no specific vehicles
for doing this and suffered in such instances when troops were trying to
refuel tanks in the open and were taking sniper fire...not a fun job. They
also used APCs to deliver food and supplies, but this hurt them too as they
had to divert armored vehicles from combat missions to resupply roles.

Mike