"Real Thrust"

2 posts ยท Jul 16 1998 to Jul 16 1998

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:03:36 -0400

Subject: "Real Thrust"

We have previously concluded, given one Maneuver Unit = 1000km and 1 Turn
= 15 minutes (900sec), that one Thrust = .25 gee (2.5m/sec^2).   Assume
that ship mass remains constant (which it doesn't, but we'll also ignore
maneuver thrusters to make up for it). Given these assumptions, what kind of
drive might we have, and how much turns worth of fuel? Let's look at a 20
tonne ship (so 5% for the drive = 1 tonne) with a 1
thrust drive.  20,000kg * 2.5m/sec^2 * 900 sec = 45,000,000 kg-m/sec.
I've seen a prediction for specific impulse for a Nuclear Thermal engine of
Isp
3000.  (1 kg fuel with specific impulse 3000 will produce 1kg--or
Newton,
rather--thrust for 3000 seconds). Dividing this into our result above
yields 15 tonnes of fuel required for one turn's acceleration. Not good. If we
bump it up to Isp 300,000 and assume "drive" is 25% engine and 75% fuel, then
we can use full thrust for 5 turns before we have dry tanks. We are therefore
pretty much forced to conclude that our Isp had better be somewhere in the
3,000,000 range, and even so it gives us only 50 turns of acceleration at full
power. Therefore we will not see quick trips from, say, Earth to Ganymede,
boosting all the way. We are also well out of the
range of most drives--I think we're stuck with ion drives, perhaps
anti-matter powered jets, or something which extracts energy from vacuum
fluctuation. Or I could just be horribly, horribly mistaken (yes, it does
happen). I'm actually hoping someone will tell me I've dropped a decimal place
somewhere, so please flame away.

From: Noah Doyle <nvdoyle@m...>

Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:07:06 -0500

Subject: RE: "Real Thrust"

Well, I had 1 Thrust set at 0.125g (1.25 m/s^2) - from the observable,
if
you accelerate for 1 turn at 1 thrust, you are travelling 1 MU/turn.  I
also assume that the standard drives in FT are either 'reactionless' (power
goes in, thrust comes out) or VERY high efficiency ion or antimatter drives. I
use simplified fuel rules for my Low Tech Full Thrust, and they seem to work.
But with the normal rules, I think we should see short trips
from Terra to the Jovians - but I have FTL set at Edge-Of-System - if
it's closer, then you can pop in and out all over the place.

Noah

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