Ranks/Services/Etc.

4 posts ยท Jan 17 2003 to Jan 18 2003

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:07:03 -0500

Subject: Ranks/Services/Etc.

Someone called into question my ordering of Canadian Generals. Without delving
into classified matters (sorry, a jab at another thread), let me tell you the
simple rhyme that I was taught for memorization of this heirarchy "Bite My
Large G*n*d!" (Brigadier, Major, Lt, full General). That isn't easy to forget
or screw up.

On another note about compartmentalization and secrecy, I recall when the pam
on how to assemble Canadian combat webbing was RESTRICTED. Now, why this was,
I can't imagine. I actually suspect domestic security (keeping anything
military from our news guys) was behind it. And of course, this was in a time
where the Liberal Gov't which hates the Forces was in power.... oh wait, we're
back there again.

As for the "amalgamation": It had disasterous morale impacts, drove out a lot
of our best NCOs and officers, and left us with the Duds we now have in NDHQ.
And we ended up eventually rebuilding "services" within the larger CF umbrella
(now the Navy wears blue, the army green, the air force lighter blue again).
And it
has left some formations like the EW/Comms
guys in an odd position (interestingly, they are
not army - they are some sort of 4th service).
And then there are a whole bunch of people in our military who are "purple"
(owing allegiance to no particular parent unit, just to CF as a whole). One of
my close friends is working in Ballistic Early Warning for the Canadian Forces
Joint Space Support Team, and he's purple.

As to trades, some do span services. Firefighting on board ship is something
that many MARS, MARE, and ranks train for. They are expected to be capable of
fighting in the specialized shipboard environment and are very profficient at
it. And they're Navy. Yet, none of them has the trade Firefighter as far as I
know. But I know many ships do not have a "Firefighter" aboard.

It's interesting to read some of the old
declassified materials - I acquired a bunch when
our armouries was clearing out its basement. Things like nuclear weapon tables
showing destruction radii for various warheads etc. And then some of the
interesting things they'd collected about our supposed opponents. (On that
note, I note that we called our targets (informally) Herman the German, but
the large five pointed red star on the helmet was a pretty good indicator of
what Generic Silhouette was supposed to represent at the time).

I also have a buddy whose brother is a CF Major who is a a PubInfo type
officer about two steps from the CDS. He does briefings from NDHQ whenever
stuff needs let out (Bosnia, Kosovo, etc). Interestingly, *his* background is
either RCHA or RCA (artillery). How that qualifies one for a PR job, I don't
even want to contemplate.

Tomb

PS - John, Congrats on the Promo. Probably
well deserved.:)

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:52:15 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: Ranks/Services/Etc.

> --- Thomas Barclay <kaladorn@magma.ca> wrote:

> collected about our supposed opponents. (On

Our pop-up targets are still called Ivan.

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:05:09 PST

Subject: Re: Ranks/Services/Etc.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:07:03 -0500 "Thomas Barclay" <kaladorn@magma.ca>
writes:
> Someone called into question my ordering of

Canada has an army big enough to require Generals? Oh, that's classified,
right?

LOL!!

Gracias,

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 06:05:09 PST

Subject: Re: Ranks/Services/Etc.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:07:03 -0500 "Thomas Barclay" <kaladorn@magma.ca>
writes: <snip>
> On another note about compartmentalization

Maybe they cost less than the surplus stores in North US did and it was an
attempt to limit thewir use by Yankee Militia groups? Who knows, if they had
been injured using the webbing they might have sued!

<grin>

Gracias,