Questions regarding NAC ground units- CANADIAN units and stuff

2 posts ยท Dec 1 2001 to Dec 2 2001

From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 01:48:39 -0500

Subject: Re: Questions regarding NAC ground units- CANADIAN units and stuff

There is representation in the NAC from all originating nations, plus stuff
created since.

2nd Drop Cavalry, comes to mind as a "new" example. I think.

And there's the "Tacoma", "Ticonderoga", and "Valley Forge" class ships in the
NAC navy.

And Gurkhas, of course. Gotta have the Gurkhas...

> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:19:13 EST

If you're interested, take a peek at:

http://www.dnd.ca/eng/archive/2001/nov01/163PPCLI_b_e.htm

The Princess Pat's were formed in 1914 when a private citizen (his name was
Gault, a Montreal businessman and a Captian in the Militia) offered the
government $100,000 to raise a regiment. The government accepted, the call
went out, but with the limitation that only veterans of military service in
the Empire were eligible.  They filled the regiment (1100 troops - a
strong battalion) in 8 days, and headed off to Europe.

The Regiment fought in both World Wars, then distinguished itself in Korea
where 2nd Bn, PPCLI won the United States Presidential Unit Citation (the only
Canadian unit to ever receive the honour, and 2PPCLI still wear the badge, I
believe).

They've been active ever since, and remain as one of the three regular
infantry regiments in the Canadian Army.

Their 3rd Battalion is currently on 48 hours notice to deploy, with orders for
Afghanistan, though this is on hold after the Northern Alliance refused to let
in more British troops. 3PPCLI is the regiment's "Light" battalion, organized
the same as the other battalions (who are mechanized) but with none of the
mech vehicles, and with lighter equipment, etc. They maintain
a company of parachutists, a company of airmobile troops - light stuff.
The force ready to deply to Afghanistan also has a Squadron of Combat
Engineers, I believe.

Take a look at the link - there's a lot more about the Regiment and its
3rd battalion.

The other two Regular infantry Regiments in the army are the RCR (Royal
Canadian Rifles) and the "Van Doos" (the Royal 22nd Regiment - and I
forget how they word it in French. The RCR are based in Ontario, with a
battalion out in the maritimes. The PPCLI are based in Western Canada, and the
Van
Doos are all-French-Canadian, and are based in Quebec.  We have three
mechanized brigades built around these regiments, and each has an armoured
unit, artillery, engineers, etc. The armoured regiments are the Lord
Strathcona's Horse (out West), the Royal Canadian Dragoons (here in Ontario,
with the RCR) and the "Deuxieme Regiment Blinde De Canada" (12eme
RBC - otherwise known as the "Rubber Boot Company") - the French
armoured unit. Canada also maintains a unit called "Joint Task Force 2", who
manage *very effectively* to remain unseen, and who are our primary Special
Operations force. They may have deployed a number of troops, probably in the
order of 150 to 200, to Afghanistan. We think. But the government isn't
talking... (as they shouldn't).

There are a whole host of Reserve regiments that have huge long histories
(well, in Canadian terms at least) that have at various times been part of the
Regular forces (during wars) or were Regular until relatively recently and
then demobilized as Regs and reactivated as reserves, with downsizing. The
last two units of regular infantry to become reserve units were the
Queen's Own Rifles of Canada (based here in Toronto - their museum is a
neat place, given that the unit has history that predates much of the country,
and they went to Africa during the Boer War and every major
conflict after that) and the Black Watch of Canada - based in Montreal.
Lots of *tiny* "Regiments* that are kept on strength to maintain a cadre for
wartime mobilization. There have been *no* whole reserve units sent on
deployment out of the country in decades, but almost all of the Canadian
overseas deployments in the past 20 years have had Reservists participating,
some at quite significant levels.

Somebody mentioned the Canadian Rangers. That's quite an interesting
organization, being made up almost entirely of Northern Native Canadians,
mostly Innuit but from other tribes also. They're *expert* in Arctic
operations, but are not part of the Regular forces. They are reservists, but
certain units are on standby for stuff like Arctic Search and Rescue (lots and
lots of international air traffic over our Arctic, and these guys train in
rescue if something bad happens). They were also poised to keep the Soviets
out of our turf during the Cold War, but I don't think were ever intended for
overseas deployment. They also provide arctic warfare training to our regular
troops and our allies.

Anyway, there's a lot more out there if you're interested. Tomb or I can
probably give you links if you're keen - contact us off list if you want
it.

I don't want to put everyone else to sleep:)

From: Iain Davidson <iain@a...>

Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:50:27 -0000

Subject: RE: Questions regarding NAC ground units- CANADIAN units and stuff

Adrian,

Not sleep-inducing at all. I've never heard of JTF2 (and why should I
;-)
and the Rangers could make some interesting scenarios...

Thanks, Iain.

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