From: Derek Fulton <derekfulton@b...>
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:30:05 +1000
Subject: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
G'Day Got the roll of film with the photo of the prototype 6mm hammers slammers combat car developed and I have posted it on my gallery page just under the P'taah picture.
From: Noel Weer <noel.weer@v...>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:08:19 -0500
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
Nice pic. I like the infantry you added. I wanted to do that but didn't have enough figs handy... This Saturday we take a company of these into battle, escorting a convoy. I did up vehicle stats with each gun as a Class 2 DFFG. I also set them up as if they can carry 1 infantry element - I thought that would account for the space/gun crews in the back. Any other thoughts? Hellion Mk I Combat Car size 4, armor 2, FGP, Class 2 DFFG x3 (SUP FCS), INF-2, ECM-BSC, SLTH 1, Fast GEV I plan to keep good track of things for an AAR for you all. [quoted original message omitted]
From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:13:02 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
Is this the earlier version that was supposed to be much bigger than the DS/FW models, or is this a later one that's more in scale. Either way, it looks great! > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Derek Fulton wrote: > G'Day
From: Derek Fulton <derekfulton@b...>
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:33:56 +1000
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
> At 11:13 5/04/01 -0600, you wrote: It's the earlier version bigger than the average DS/FW miniature, but I think that if it was small you couldn't fit the 6mm infantry in.
From: Derek Fulton <derekfulton@b...>
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:36:27 +1000
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
> At 03:33 6/04/01 +1000, you wrote: > think that if it was small you couldn't fit the 6mm infantry in. sorry, I meant smaller > Derek
From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:20:37 -0500
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
> Is this the earlier version that was supposed to be much bigger than Would identifying the accompanying vehicles in the caption have helped? I'm a vac-head, so the names would have been meaningless to me.
From: Daniel Casquilho <danielc@e...>
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:50:54 -0700
Subject: RE: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
> This Saturday we take a company of these into battle, escorting Interesting stats. I must admit I do not remember the combat cars being APCs in the stories, but maybe it is just me. I also never pictured them as being as large or larger then the tanks. How does the new figure match up against the Deimos size wise? I am looking forward to reading the AAR for this battle. Sounds like a nice scenario.
From: Noel Weer <noel.weer@v...>
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:13:18 -0500
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
I do not think of combat cars as APCs either, but I was toying with the idea that they have a larger "crew" than the norm for a line vehicle that could conceivably bail out and actually function as an infantry line element. That is where the INF-1 came from originally, and I was hoping to see what the list thought of that concept. Add in the 3 Class 2 weapons, and it forces it to a size 4 - which it is not. It looks like a large class 3. If I drop the infantry carrying aspect and it becomes a Size 3 easily: Hellion Mk I Combat Car size 3, armor 3, FGP, Class 2 DFFG x3 (SUP FCS), ECM-BSC, Fast GEV which would cost 173, compared to 291 for the earlier stat set. I am leaning towards the cheaper version and I haven't made up cards yet, or committed to any stats for the players... More thoughts? [quoted original message omitted]
From: Daniel Casquilho <danielc@e...>
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:10:21 -0700
Subject: RE: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
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From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:08:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
> --- Noel Weer <noel.weer@verizon.net> wrote: 4 guys. All armed with SMGs. And if the car is dead they are not going to be in the mood to tango. Actually, IMNSHO Medium hover AFV, open-topped, with 3 tribarrels and gunners in open fighting compartment. Iridium armour, fusion power plant. Slow GEV, class 3 (medium), signature = D8. No stealth. PGN/1 x 3 on pintle mounts, enhanced firecons. APFC. Armour 3 (Iridium). FGP. Enhanced ECM. Is a better writeup for the Combat Cars. PGN is a longer-ranged DFFG proposed (along with that writeup) in Jon Tuffley's Hammer's Slammers conversion for DSII. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3565/slammin-the-dirt.html Has the whole article. It ain't quite balanced--Powerguns are NASTY. But it has the flavor of the genre.
From: Noel Weer <noel.weer@v...>
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:57:48 -0500
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
Yeah, I read that, and was really tempted. But I did not want to unbalance this fight - regular DSII game. I like the idea of using PGN stats for true Hammer's Slammers scenario, though. We start playing in about 2 hours... I'll try to get an AAR out tonight... [quoted original message omitted]
From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:45:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
Okay thanks. But I've always wondered about this, does this mean the 6mm infantry is actually in a bigger scale than the regular DS/FW vehicles? > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Derek Fulton wrote: > At 11:13 5/04/01 -0600, you wrote:
From: Daniel Casquilho <danielc@e...>
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:49:38 -0700
Subject: RE: prototype 6mm hammer slammer combat car photo
> Okay thanks. But I've always wondered about this, does this I can't say for all of the vehicles in both lines, but of the vehicles I own I would say the troops are not in "scale" to the vehicles. The 6mm troops (both Dirtside and oop Epic) are big. But then they do look a lot better then the 1/285th stuff I own.