Proper mass ratings

7 posts ยท Mar 7 2000 to Mar 7 2000

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:42:10 -0500

Subject: Proper mass ratings

1. Required: 1 miniature to be tested
1 scale - accurate into tenths or hundredths of a gram - digital or
analog
        - must have TARE function
1 beaker some H20(aq) (aka distilled water)

2. Process:

A) Put beaker on scale empty.

B) TARE the scale to zero it with the current weight of beaker.

C) Fill to brim with water. Try to avoid a highly curved meniscus. You want
roughly a flat top on the water. But fill to the brim.

D) Note Full Weight. Because you TARE'd the scale, your beaker is not part of
the eq'n. So all you have is the weight of the water.

E) Remove beaker careful not to spill. Place over sink.

F) Insert mini into beaker. Ensure it is submerged. This will force water out
in proportion to the size of the mini. Make sure again there is no meniscus on
top of the beaker. Remove the mini. Dry off any drips from the sides or bottom
of beaker.

G) Replace partially full beaker on scale. Check weight.

H) Difference in before/after weight corresponds to water displacement
of mini (MASS in FT terms). Using standard mass minis (FB), you can establish
baseline Mass Point/Actual Weight conversions factor to apply to
non-standard minis.

NOTE: Avoid measuring figure with stand attached. For figures made of styrene
that want to float, push them down with very small brass rod (won't displace
much additional water).

Of course, this is vaguely insane. But if you happen to have access to a lab,
it'll work. And it ought to give fair readings of mass despite figure
composition.

Oh, and if you aren't totally anal, just eyeball the mini and come up with a
figure for estimated mass that you can live with.:)

Tom.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:16:35 +0100

Subject: Re: Proper mass ratings

> Thomas.Barclay wrote:

[snip]

> C) Fill to brim with water. Try to avoid a highly curved meniscus. You

> want roughly a flat top on the water. But fill to the brim.

[snip]

> F) Insert mini into beaker. Ensure it is submerged. This will force

What do you coat the model with, to avoid having significant amounts of water
sticking to it when you remove it from the beaker? Teflon
spray...?

<g>

From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>

Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:09:25 -0500

Subject: RE: Proper mass ratings

[Clipped elaborate scientific method]

> Of course, this is vaguely insane.

Only vaguely, Tom?

It sounds a lot like Aaron Teske's quote at the Convention.

"I feel like I'm checking the sex of a cat."

From: kwasTAKETHISOUT@o... (Kr'rt)

Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:12:33 GMT

Subject: Re: Proper mass ratings

And what if you are using those thrice-damned Agents of Gaming B5
minis that are hollow and can not be made watertight? How do we account for
water retention WITHIN the mini? Also, what if the hollow mini retains AIR and
adds a buoyancy factor to this procedure.

We need answers!

-=Kr'rt
(Skee-daddling away just ahead of the Narn Bat Squad...)

Quoth "Oerjan Ohlson" <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com>...
> Thomas.Barclay wrote:

From: Michael Sarno <msarno@p...>

Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:27:33 -0500

Subject: Re: Proper mass ratings

> Kr'rt wrote:

> And what if you are using those thrice-damned Agents of Gaming B5

The only way to be sure is to recast each model using a uniform substance.
Then you can simply weigh the recasted models. In addition, you don't have to
worry about evaporation, either, which would create an unacceptable amount of
error using Tom's proposal.

-Mike

From: Scott Jaqua <jaqua@c...>

Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:33:25 -0800

Subject: Re: Proper mass ratings

> And what if you are using those thrice-damned Agents of Gaming B5

What?, You mean you didn't seal the mini, or at lease fill it with epoxy
putty?. And you call your self a gamer. No right minded and A/R gamer
would allow simple air to get in the way of progress.:)

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:33:52 -0500

Subject: RE: Proper mass ratings

> -----Original Message-----
How do we account for water retention WITHIN the mini?

[Bri]
My wife has some pills that will help with water retention. :-)

> Also, what if the hollow
[Bri]
Weigh them before assembly.

> We need answers!
[Bri]
Ask and you shall get it!

> -=Kr'rt