> also gives some people (not naming names) an excuse to paint starships
Who needs an excuse? "Not for us, not for us, O Lord..."
> The NAC, FSE, NSL, Scandanavians, OU are religiously tolerant
I'd say at least one of those may be more "hostile towards religions" without
being formally atheistic the same way the ESU is.
> The ones getting really shortchanged in all this are the Indians.
Cibola is an Alarishi-claimed system which has a habitable planet; none
of
the colonies on the planet are Alarishi but one is Sikh/Dogra. That's
as close as I've gotten.
> The ones getting really shortchanged in all this are the Indians.
I thought they'd been brought into the UN. Similar to the subtle controls that
were developed for political entities, by taking over all call service centers
for large corporations, the UN now has complete monitoring and subtle
influence on all interstellar commerce.
The_Beast
> From: JBrewer@webtv.net (John Brewer)
> What would make the Papal High Guard interesting would be ship
Good names -- I've been thinking along these lines for Templar ships for
some time, and coming up with names like these have been on my Things To Do
Real Soon Now list...
quibble:
> SERAPHIM class fighters
I thought Kherubim and Serafim were higher-ranked than angels and
archangels? I'd have expected them to be bigger ships, SDN and the like;
although I grant you that I haven't the faintest idea what names you'd use.
I know Cherubim are more highly ranked than Archangels, but it's a
matter of "Que est mas macho?" - The Archangel Gabriel, who blows the
horn that signals The End of Days, or a little naked baby with wings that
signals that Valentine's Day is nigh?
John Brewer said:
> I know Cherubim are more highly ranked than Archangels, but it's a
Yeah. CS Lewis pointed out that in Renaissance and later paintings, angels
tend to look like chubby kids or skinnny teenage girls; in Biblical accounts,
people who met angels usually collapsed in terror. (OTOH, I don't recall a
verse that states that angels have ranks other than "angel" and "archangel").
I tend to spell it "kherubim", and ISTR that they looked like winged lions...
> laserlight@quixnet.net wrote:
> I know Cherubim are more highly ranked than Archangels, but it's a
Seraphim are the most senior angels
Cherubim are just baby angels
"Living Creatures" Ezekiel/Isiaha's visions appear to be the most
senior
Archangels less senior than both searphim and Cherubim.
There's a whole mythology of angels (based in large parts on the apocryphal
Book of Enoch) which ranks the types of angels as follows (from greatest to
least):
Seraphim
Cherubim
Thrones
Dominations
Virtues
Powers
Principalities
Archangels
Angels
So it looks like the Papal High Guard has reversed this order with respect to
starship sizes.
Rank in order from lowest to highest, along with quite a bit more, is at
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01476d.htm
"The following passages from St.Gregory the Great (Hom. 34, In Evang.) will
give us a clear idea of the view of the Church's doctors on the point: 'We
know on the authority of Scripture that there are nine orders of angels, viz.,
Angels, Archangels, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Dominations, Throne,
Cherubim and Seraphim.' "
"The following passages from St.Gregory the Great (Hom. 34, In Evang.) will
give us a clear idea of the view of the Church's doctors on the point: 'We
know on the authority of Scripture that there are nine orders of angels, viz.,
Angels, Archangels, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Dominations, Throne,
Cherubim and Seraphim.' "
Ok people, calm down.
There are at a minimum 13 different rankings of various angelic choirs
depending not only the religion, but the source within that religion. That
doesn't address any of other various groupings such as the Sarim, the Archons,
the Malake Habbalah, the Angels of Hours, Days, Months, and Seasons, the
Hechaloth, etc.
Heck, don't even get me started on who exactly the archangels *are* -
there's 15+ different groupings listed.
If you want a cheap and definitive source full of names, choirs, rankings,
etc buy _A Dictionary of Angels: Including the fallen angels_ by Gustav
Davidson. It's in paperback and well worth the nominal amount of cash. You'll
get Islamic, Christian, Persian, Jewish, Yezidic, Indian, & Zoroastrian angels
and explanations...
I hope this helps.
> On 15 Oct 2004 at 15:31, David Rodemaker wrote:
> If you want a cheap and definitive source full of names, choirs,
I'm rather tickled by the fact that there's a book: "The Complete Idiot's
Guide to Angels" <url:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0028629418/whapowwebtechfam/102
-0120505-5314546>
but then I'm also amused by the book: "Project Management for
Dummies" <url: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/076455283X/qid%3D1097873082/102-0120505-5314546>
though I do tend to think that they missed 'is' from the title of
that one. ;-)
My $0.02
Name fighters after spices,etc. like franksense, myrrh, etc. because most
fighters tend to become fireballs anyway.
Name escorts after levels of church officialdom ie. monsigneur, bishop,
cardinal, pope, etc. crusiers after the staints, and capitals after
supernatural creatures ie angels