POLIZEI

11 posts ยท May 2 2002 to Dec 4 2003

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:53:40 +1000

Subject: Re: POLIZEI

> POLITI (Norwegian?) and POLIZEI got jammed up in my aging rain and

From: DAWGFACE47@w...

Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:30:33 -0600 (CST)

Subject: POLIZEI

KARL, what exactly is meant by the WWII WEHRMACHT terms ORDER POLICE, SECURITY
POLICE, AUXILIARY POLICE, and MILITARY POLICE??????

from my reading WEHRMACHT MPs were all NCOs and officers and all completed a
very intensive 2 year school (that no doubt got shorter as the need arose for
MPs) and were MP in the American sense of the term.

i know that  some regular policemen, who had been formed into pre-war
police battalions were actually what we would call para-military forces
now days.

i know that there were special SD (?) or SS police battalons operating on the
Eastern Front and elswhere, who were feared and despised by WEHRMACHT soldiers
as well as by the partisans.

i have been reading up on the Easter Front and have come across many police vs
partisan actions.

these run the gamut from static guard post, temperary checkpoint, strongpoint,
vehicle patrols, horseback patrols, foot patrols, and
armored trains vs partisans    .

but who were all of these other guys running about with the title of
policeman?

as i remember from talking with old landsers, the "polite" term for WEHR MACHT
MPs were "kettenhunde" or "jaegerkopf".

also, came across the modern German police titles;

a. ABSCHNITTS BEVOLLMACHTIGTER (FREEWAY OR MOTORCYCLE POLICE?)

b. SCHUTZ POLIZEI (BORDER POLICE OR SWAT POLICE?)

are the abov guys FEDERAL POLICE, state police, or????

DAWGIE

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:56 +0100

Subject: Re: POLIZEI

Hello DAWGIE

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From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:28:41 +0800

Subject: Re: POLIZEI

> This also applies to the "Verfassungsschutz" 'Constitutional

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:47:46 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: POLIZEI

> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Alan E Brain wrote:

> >This also applies to the "Verfassungsschutz" 'Constitutional

Likewise CSIS - Canadian Security & Inteligence Service.

Of course, CSIS usually makes the news when it's agents leave laptops full of
sensitive data in payphone booths & stuff. Oops.

From: Robertson, Brendan <Brendan.Robertson@d...>

Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:53:30 +1100

Subject: RE: POLIZEI

We leave that for AQIS (Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service). Laptop
full of sensitive data nicked from their own office in Sydney a few months
back.

Brendan 'Neath Southern Skies

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From: A J Martin <AJMartin@o...>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:44:19 +1300

Subject: Re: POLIZEI

> Brendan wrote:
Laptop full of sensitive data nicked from their own office in Sydney a few
months back.

> Brian wrote:

In NZ, it's the SIS a few years back now, leaving a briefcase, IIRC, with a
pie and a porno magazine, along with secret information for the public to
find.

From: Matt Tope <mptope@o...>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:28:58 -0000

Subject: RE: POLIZEI

Andrew wrote

> Brendan wrote:

> Brian wrote:

> In NZ, it's the SIS a few years back now, leaving a briefcase, IIRC,

Here in the UK we leave that kind of thing to Navy Inteligence who have a
knack of leaving a laptop with, say, the latest info regarding Trident or
operational plans regarding Gulf 2 on the back seat of their cars which then
get broken into...

Regards,

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:26:26 -0600

Subject: RE: POLIZEI

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Here in the UK we leave that kind of thing to Navy Inteligence who have a
knack of leaving a laptop with, say, the latest info regarding Trident or
operational plans regarding Gulf 2 on the back seat of their cars which then
get broken into...
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In the USA, isn't it the lure of the free market? Not just the normal 'pay for
play' folks, but the fact that the hardware is surplused and sold so fast
sensitive info fails to be deleted?

The_Beast

From: Matt Tope <mptope@o...>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:45:44 -0000

Subject: RE:POLIZEI

> Doug wrote:

> In the USA, isn't it the lure of the free market? Not just the normal

"I'll just boot up my brand new laptop...enter pass word...oh...I thought a
minuteman was a soldier, why would I want to launch one at Moscow?...better
take it back to the dealer..."

Regards,

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:28:34 -0600

Subject: Re: POLIZEI

I can neither confirm or deny... although last week was CI
(Counter-intelligence) week at NGA and a lot presentations by
representatives of various CI agencies were made.

Gracias, Glenn

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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:26:26 -0600 Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
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