PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

47 posts ยท Jan 22 1997 to Feb 14 1997

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:02:29 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Contributors and friends,

This is sad news indeed. While I never met Adam, save through the net, I have
always enjoyed associating with him and occasionally
shooting at him via e-mail. I always found his discussions insightful
and he will be sorely missed. I think the world just became a poorer place.

From: Jonathan white <jw4@b...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:56:26 -0500

Subject: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I have to report some very sad news..

Adam Delafield, list adminstrator and frequent contributor died suddenly

on 17th January reportedly from pneumonia.

Aside from the obvious sadness we all feel at such events, this throws the
future of the list somewhat in doubt. Since I also work at Bolton Institute
(which hosts the list) I *may* be able to take over administration temporarily
but I have to make contact with our mainframe

adminstrator to confirm it.

From: Mark A. Siefert <cthulhu@c...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:05:09 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Absolutely Barking Stars wrote:

> Adam Delafield, list adminstrator and frequent contributor died

I reccomend that everyone stop by my FT page and scroll down to the new
section titled "special announcment." I think it speaks for us all.

Cordially,

From: Timothy Klaus <tklaus@m...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:05:56 -0500

Subject: RE: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

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From:	"Absolutely Barking Stars" <jw4@bolton.ac.uk>
Sent:	Wednesday, January 22, 1997 6:56 AM
To:     FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
Subject:	PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I have to report some very sad news..

Adam Delafield, list adminstrator and frequent contributor died suddenly

on 17th January reportedly from pneumonia.

Aside from the obvious sadness we all feel at such events, this throws the
future of the list somewhat in doubt. Since I also work at Bolton Institute
(which hosts the list) I *may* be able to take over administration temporarily
but I have to make contact with our mainframe

adminstrator to confirm it.

From: Gary Ballard <gdaddy@m...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:11:19 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Absolutely Barking Stars wrote:

Pneumonia? That is truly tragic.

I think it would not be inappropriate to ask a moment of silence for Adam, who
I didn't know, but whose posts were always insightful and whose work kept this
list going.

Stunned,

From: FieldScott@a...

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:11:49 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

How do you mourn someone you never met, even though you feel like you knew
him?

I'd just like to add my condolances to Adam's family and anyone else who knew
him closely. I'm sure administrating and participating in this list wasn't the
major achievement of his life, but those of us who only knew him through the
list will still miss him.

From: Donald A. Chipman III <tre@i...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:29:09 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> At 09:02 AM 1/22/97 +0000, you wrote:
I just read the notice on Mark's site. While I'm largely a lurker on this
list, I always found Adam's comments to be imaginative, logical and
insightful, and I regret that I didn't have the opportunity to get to know him
better. Does anyone know what happened?

From: Bob Blanchett <bob.blanchett@i...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:09:26 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

If Mike Elliot reads this;

may I suggest a one or two lines in the next GZG release for Adam. Running
this list is an effort whould should not go unremembered.

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:41:52 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> How do you mourn someone you never met, even though you feel like you

I don't know.  :-(

> I'd just like to add my condolances to Adam's family and anyone else

I second, third, fourth everyone else's statements. I didn't talk to him as
much as many of you, but still will miss his input and discussions.

Mike Elliott, I'm sure Jon T prolly didn't really know Adam, either (then
again, maybe he did), but would you consider it inappropriate to put in a
thought/suggestion to Jon about naming a class of ships after Adam?
Either in the Full Thrust universe or in the Babylon Project RPG game? Though
for the latter Jon might have to talk to JMS about.

Mk

From: rpruden@a... (Rob Pruden)

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:09:13 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> At 12:56 PM 1/22/97 +0000, FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk wrote:

We are all very saddened and suprised by this bad news. Adam's insight,
intellect, and wit were a real high point of reading this mailing list and we
will miss his contributions greatly. I agree with the suggestion that GZG add
some sort of dedication to Adam in their next edition of FT.

Please pass along our sadness and sympathy to Adam's family. It says a lot
about him that he made such a good impression on so many of us all over the
world.

> Aside from the obvious sadness we all feel at such events, this throws

Jonathan,

Please do what you can to maintain this list. It has been a wonderful source
of information and I have greatly enjoyed sharing ideas with my fellow
subscribers. Let us know what we can do to support you.

From: Nick Meredith <nickm@d...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:23:10 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> On 22 Jan 97 at 19:27, Ludo Toen wrote:

> Bob Blanchett wrote:

I'm normally very scathing about "Me Too" postings. In this case I wish to
post one myself.

Me too, I'm sorry to say.

From: Ludo Toen <Ludo.Toen@p...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:27:51 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Bob Blanchett wrote:

I am sure all of us will agree to this as being the most fitting tribute to
Adam. He will be missed by all.

From: THE CIDER KING <PN013@l...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:31:37 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

As for Mr.Wikan I have never met Adam, but when I first subscribed to this

From: Darren Douglas <ddouglas@v...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:45:48 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I'd like to also to add my condolances to Adams family and friends. Like many
I only had small dealings with him, but found him to be truely both comitted
and enthuisasic about Full Thrust and other games.

It is rare to find a person dedicated to sharing with others his passion for
the games he played and providing services and information for no personnel
gain. We have much to thank him for, he has helped expand our enjoyment of the
games we play.

Someone stated how do you mourn someone you have never meet, but feel like you
know them? Well I quess thats the internet for you. I for one do not regret
this for the if the mail regarding this unfortunant news is anything to go by
Adam will be very badly missed by many, who otherwise would never had the
chance to meet him.

A tribute of some description would be nice especially if it could be in one
of the games that he put a large amount of effort into.

Shocked and Saddened.

From: Aaron Teske <ateske@H...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:12:50 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

As with nearly everyone, it seems, I only knew Adam through the list, but he
had some good ideas and always kept some control over the list's direction. He
will be missed.

From: Dean Gundberg <dean.gundberg@n...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:24:05 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Adam always seemed to me as the father figure of this list, both as the
administrator and as a contributor. It is ironic from my point of view that I
learn of Adam's death on the 2nd anniversary of the passing of my wife's
father (I was at a Star Trek convention at the time, silly coincidences). The
universe has lost one of its lights.

Jonathan, if appropriate, could you post an address where we could send
sympathy cards to his family. I think cards from around the globe would show
his friends and family the friendship and respect he had on this list.

From: Niall Gilsenan <ngilsena@i...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:49:19 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I as with many of us on the list didn't know him well, but I must say I had
always found him more than helpful, whenever I had a query. His intelligent
commentary will be missed.

Its strange to think we're already using the past tense to describe him.

My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.

> Mike Elliott, I'm sure Jon T prolly didn't really know Adam, either

This had occured to myself as well. It seems an excellent idea and I beleive
it would be something of a fitting tribute to his work on this list.

I can only presume the SFSFW will make mention of him and his willingness to
host their website for quite a while.

From: Joseph A. Noll <u1a00458@m...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:10:46 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

My condolences to Adam's family, I have not been on this group long, but he
was the first to welcome me in. He will be missed greatly.

From: mangaman@g...

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:46:01 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

My total agreement with everyones thoughts and I just want to add that he did
great credit to our hobby, to this list and to the net where we all knew and
always enjoyed him. He IS a great example of how wonderful this cyberworld can
be.

He is a man of Honor.

My best wishes to his family.

From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:43:20 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

As has been said by many, I never met Adam, however his passing will be felt.

Please forward a postal address for cards.

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:11:57 -0500

Subject: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

-------------------- Begin Original Message --------------------
Message text written by INTERNET:FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
"I have to report some very sad news..

Adam Delafield, list adminstrator and frequent contributor died suddenly

on 17th January reportedly from pneumonia. "
-------------------- End Original Message --------------------

I have no words to express the sadness that I feel. I did not know Adam. But
this list has brought me great joy for the several months I have been a
subscriber. The great effort he has put into this list has not gone unnoticed.

I could not let this event go by without expressing my condollences and
prayers to his family.

From: Jonathan white <jw4@b...>

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 04:05:19 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> We are all very saddened and suprised by this bad news. Adam's

This is a general reply to the messages that followed the announcement. I'm
sure Adams family would appreciate the sentiments that have been expressed
here and as soon as I can get in touch with one of them (his mother is
actually a researcher in this department) I will pass on the sentiment.
HOWEVER, I am not going to give out a postal address. Firstly, the family have
requested their privacy and I sympathise with that and secondly given the time
for international post it is unlikely that any messages would arrive in time
for any memorial services. Nevertheless be assured I will make sure the family
know how highly Adam was regarded here.

> Jonathan,
At the moment the question is more whether I can spare the time to administer.
I will consider it for a while. If not, I may ask for volunteers. DON'T reply
yet about that please. I see no reason why the list should not continue to be
hosted as it is.

                                TTFN
                                                Jon

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 05:40:09 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 FieldScott@aol.com wrote:

> How do you mourn someone you never met, even though you feel like you

I don't know. Yet I do.

All I would say has already been said by others, and said better than I could,
but I too wish to express my shock and sorrow.

Rest in peace, Adam. We will remember you always.

From: Brendan Pratt <bastard@o...>

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:38:52 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Absolutely Barking Stars wrote:

My sympathies

From: Brendan Pratt <bastard@o...>

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:43:54 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Ludo Toen wrote:

From: mwj1psy@b...

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:00:14 -0500

Subject: RE: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I knew Adam personally and professionaly, and I found him to be pleasent,
cheerful, interesting and always very helpful. My condolances to his family.
GOD BLESS Mark Jones

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:20:46 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Brendan Pratt wrote:

Oh my God. That's my initial reaction. And I think everybody else has pretty
well said what all of us are feeling.

I agree whole heartedly with the above. Even though I knew Adam only through
the List, his comments added a lot. He deserves a tribute; at least name a
Federation or something after him. Or, at least, kill off a couple of Narn.
(8-)

Is there anybody or anywhere we should send our condolances to? Cards and
such?

Man, death sucks.  (8-(

J.

From: Steve Gill <Steve@c...>

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:14:18 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Shocked.

Spoken for years over the net. Only got to meet him once.

Will miss him, and his great humour, a lot.

From: MJMurtha@a...

Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:31:12 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

+-------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Adam Delafield, I.T. Officer        | Bolton Institute,  |
| #include "witty_saying"             | Eagle Tower,       |
| E-mail : ad4@Bolton.ac.uk           | College Way,       |
| Phone  : +44 1204 528851 (ext 3163) | Bolton, UK.        |
| Fax    : +44 1204 399074            | BL3 5AE.           |
+-------------------------------------+--------------------+

The post about Adam was a bit of a shock. I am on several lists in additional
to running a gaming club so I usually don't do much more than lurk on a list
and send off a short post once in a while. I make an effort to read as much of
the mail as I can and I notice the blurbs and quotes at the bottom of the
posts and remember the ones I see over and over again. It is a sad thing that
the above will never be seen again and I agree with the many others who have
said that we are all a little poorer than we were before. My best to Adam's
family and friends. Mike J. Murtha The Adventurer's Club

From: Mike Miserendino <phddms1@c...>

Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:26:13 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Jonathan White wrote:

I haven't checked my email for a couple of days and I was very shocked to read
the news about Adam. I just responded to an email from him the other day and
now he is no longer with us. I did not know Adam personally, but like most of
us on this list, I feel this was a terrible loss. Adam did a fine job of
maintaining this list and participating in discussions for some time. We will
miss you Adam. Thank you for all you have done. I wish his family well.

From: Mike Miserendino <phddms1@c...>

Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:26:16 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Dean Gundberg wrote:

Excellent idea! Please do.

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:22:09 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> At 12:56 PM 1/22/97 +0000, Jonathon wrote:

Good Lord. This is the third piece of bad news I've been hit with this week
(including a death in the family). In some ways this has hit me the hardest.

As most of you, I had never met Adam, but I felt I knew him--in some
small
way--through this list. I admired his his comments, while his firm and
tireless work to maintain the list, both technically and editorially, will be
greatly missed. I only wish we had told him this while he was with us.

If any of you know his family, I would appreciate you passing on my
condolences.

Adam, save a space for me at the game table. I suspect that in Heaven, you
always have time to paint your figures, and your dice never fall on the
floor...

Until then, you will be missed.

From: JAMES BUTLER <JAMESBUTLER@w...>

Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:36:14 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> At 05:09 PM 1/22/97 +0000, you wrote:

I should like to offer my wholehearted support for this idea. My condolences
and prayers to the family and friends of Adam Delafield.

        James

From: Steve Gill <Steve@c...>

Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:46:53 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I'm passing this on:

From: Jon Tuffley, GZG.

I have just heard the dreadful news about Adam Delafield, having had several
of the messages from the list passed on to me (thanks, Steve and Jim). I
didn't know Adam all that well, but had spoken to him on a few occasions and
got on very well. His enthusiasm for FT and games in general was obvious, and
he has done a marvellous job of running the mailing list.

It is always difficult to know what to say in these situations, except to add
my deepest condolences to all his family and friends. Rest assured that Adam's
liking and faith in FT will be remembered in our next printing, and I shall be
acting on the suggestion of naming a ship
class for him - something that may seem trivial to "outsiders", but we
will all know and understand the spirit in which it is meant. Perhaps it will
encourage us all to think of him every time a Delafield class ship takes to
the games table...

Rest in Peace, Adam - our thoughts are with you.

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:27:28 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Let me thank you for taking over the list, John. It takes someone with
patience and good humor to administer one, and judging by your
input on the list, you should do a bang-up job!!

Thanks again.

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 05:00:36 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

From:          "Mike Wikan" <mww@n-space.com>
Organization:  n-Space, Inc.
To:            FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
Date:          Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:27:28 +0000
Subject:       Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 06:30:23 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> John, just don't let the Narn Bat Squa...er, representatives here
Hey! HEEEEY!!! I resemble that remark!!;-)

From: Jonathan white <jw4@b...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 06:36:53 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Just to let you all know, Adam's funeral was this morning.

I would like to draw this topic to a close now if nobody objects. I would just
like to add a round of applause for the idea of Adam's commemoration within
FT.

Since I'm stepping into his spot, as it were, I'd better introduce myself. I'm
not really as avid a player as Adam was and my knowledge of GZG's games isn't
as universal but I'm going to get back to the rulebooks and try and get them
down pat. I'm mainly a Full Thrust player with an amount of StarGrunt on the
side. I also enjoy several other similar games; most

avidly DP9's Heavy Gear. I'm also a B5 fan.

I may not be as active in dscussions as Adam was but I'll try and keep things
running smoothly and try and help when I feel up to the standard that has been
set.

                                TTFN
                                        Jon

From: Chun Wang <cwang@d...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:18:12 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I really don't know what to say about Adam's death. I don't know

him, and be honest I haven't been on the list very long at all.:< All I

can wish is "To die to sleep no more" and may in that enternal sleep may

Adam find peace...

************************************************************************
*
*"To be or not to be that is the question."
*
*To be is infinite better then to be in the limbo flowing around...
*
*So.....			 Get a life... :)
*

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:34:57 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> Let me thank you for taking over the list, John. It takes someone

John, just don't let the Narn Bat Squa...er, representatives here intimiated
you too much. They mean well, but can get a little...enthusiastic at times.

;-)

Mk

From: Jonathan white <jw4@b...>

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:30:55 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> >Let me thank you for taking over the list, John. It takes someone
Grin. I'm quite capable of stading my ground and I'm sure everyone here is a
decent, reasonable human being (*cough*).

Just remember folks, don't upset the technowizard ;-)

                        TTFN
                                Jon

From: PsyWraith@a...

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:55:26 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I have just gotten back from a field exercise and shocked and saddened to here
that Adam had passed away. I like many did not know him personally, but I will
miss him as will many others. The amount of time and energy he devoted to this
list was truly herculean. My sympathy and best wishes for his family.

From: Thomas@s... (Thomas Payne)

Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:53:53 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Jeez. I gain access to the net after a few month break, and this is the first
thing in my mail box. I didn't know Adam at all, but from what I'd seen of him
on the list he seemed a decent bloke.

He'll be missed.

From: Steve Gill <Steve@c...>

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:29:35 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

Apologies if this comes through twice, but it didn't seem to make it last
week.

I'm passing this on:

From: Jon Tuffley, GZG.

I have just heard the dreadful news about Adam Delafield, having had several
of the messages from the list passed on to me (thanks, Steve and Jim). I
didn't know Adam all that well, but had spoken to him on a few occasions and
got on very well. His enthusiasm for FT and games in general was obvious, and
he has done a marvellous job of running the mailing list.

It is always difficult to know what to say in these situations, except to add
my deepest condolences to all his family and friends. Rest assured that Adam's
liking and faith in FT will be remembered in our next printing, and I shall be
acting on the suggestion of naming a ship
class for him - something that may seem trivial to "outsiders", but we
will all know and understand the spirit in which it is meant. Perhaps it will
encourage us all to think of him every time a Delafield class ship takes to
the games table...

Rest in Peace, Adam - our thoughts are with you.

From: Andy Cowell <andy@c...>

Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:40:34 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

In message <B0000031571@rincewind.sar.bolton.ac.uk>, "Absolutely Barking
Stars" writes:
> I have to report some very sad news..

Damn, I went to catch up on the list tonight and saw this. I'm so sorry.

> Aside from the obvious sadness we all feel at such events, this throws

I had been trying to get in touch with Adam to let him know that I was able to
take the list on. I couldn't figure out why he wasn't responding. As I said,
I'm behind on the list, but if we don't have a home yet, I can take it.

From: Jonathan white <jw4@b...>

Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:27:04 -0500

Subject: Re: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

> I had been trying to get in touch with Adam to let him know that I was
It appears the list is safe for now. It depends mainly on my workload, but for
now it seems OK.

                        TTFN
                                Jon

From: M.J.Elliott@u...

Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:53:41 -0500

Subject: Re[2]: PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I know that this item is now "history", but as I have unable to respond until
now, I feel I must add my condolences to Adam's family on his untimely
departure from this life. Adam will be remembered as the founder of this
list....

I have spoken to Jon and we have agreed that there will be some memorial to
Adam in a future publication. Thanks for your suggestions, we'll be working on
it.

In sadness,

Mike Elliott, GZG

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From:  "Absolutely Barking Stars" <jw4@bolton.ac.uk>
Sent:  Wednesday, January 22, 1997 6:56 AM
To:  FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
Subject:  PLEASE READ, this is important folks...

I have to report some very sad news..

Adam Delafield, list adminstrator and frequent contributor died suddenly

on 17th January reportedly from pneumonia.

Aside from the obvious sadness we all feel at such events, this throws the
future of the list somewhat in doubt. Since I also work at Bolton Institute
(which hosts the list) I *may* be able to take over administration temporarily
but I have to make contact with our mainframe

adminstrator to confirm it.