PenAid SMs

4 posts ยท Nov 8 1999 to Nov 10 1999

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:37:54 +0100

Subject: PenAid SMs

...right.

Last week, we discussed two main versions of "jammer salvo missiles" or
"penetration aid salvo missiles". Both versions made the "real" missiles as
hard to intercept as Heavy Fighters; note that this makes
C1 batteries ignore the jammers. I assume that the full-size FC
controlling the C1 batteries is powerful enough to see through the
jammers while the PDS's integral targetting systems aren't - or
something like that :-/

Both versions get better the more PDS the target has (both its own, and those
on any escorting ADFC units).

The first version was one full SM salvo jamming nearby PDS targetting sensors
(my variant of it had all enemy PDS within 6mu of the jammer salvo affected;
Laserlight's was a bit unclear but I think that was what he meant as well).
This is worthwhile (ie, better than what you'd get if the jammer salvo was
replaced with a standard one which also hit
a non-decoy target) if there are 15 or more PDS defending the
target(s), and it seems to be fairly independent on the actual number of
salvoes on target. While 15 PDS isn't exactly uncommon given how popular ADFC
is, I believe it is high enough to let the jammer salvo be the same Mass and
cost as normal SM salvoes.

The second one had one missile in each SM salvo carry a PenAid pack (which
only aids the missiles in its own salvo). Its efficiency varies a bit
depending on how you determine the number of armed missiles on target, but it
sounded as if the consensus was that the salvo hits with
1D6-1 missiles. This breaks even if the target defends against the
salvo with 3 PDS; if more, it gets better than a normal SM salvo, if less it
gets worse (but then the target tends to be in trouble anyway). I *think* it
would be OK at the standard SM cost, but it may need a slight cost increase
(to 4x or 5x Mass of the salvo).

Later,

From: ODUPSHAW3@c...

Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:26:16 EST

Subject: Re: PenAid SMs

I know I was not clear on this, but I envisioned my version of one missile in
the salvo being a jammer like this.

If the salvo is on target you roll a die for how many missiles are on target.
 If you roll a six you roll again until you roll a 1-5, this roll is how
many missiles are on target. The missiles that are on target are then
protected by the jammer, which is assumed to have better seakers or more drive
whatever it takes such that if any missiles in the salvo are on target it will
be able to get in position to protect them. The protection is as stated rolls
of four are treated as a miss by the PDS. If your PDS rolls a six and then a
four you only get 2 kills on the inbounds not 3.

Oliver Dewey Upshaw III odupshaw3@hotmail.com odupshaw3@cs.com

"Ms. Wolversham, you are authorized to return fire!"
David Weber   The Short Victorious War

In a message dated 11/8/99 2:28:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> oerjan.ohlson@telia.com writes:

<<
The second one had one missile in each SM salvo carry a PenAid pack (which
only aids the missiles in its own salvo). Its efficiency varies a bit
depending on how you determine the number of armed missiles on target, but it
sounded as if the consensus was that the salvo hits with
 1D6-1 missiles. This breaks even if the target defends against the
salvo with 3 PDS; if more, it gets better than a normal SM salvo, if less it
gets worse (but then the target tends to be in trouble anyway). I *think* it
would be OK at the standard SM cost, but it may need a slight cost increase
(to 4x or 5x Mass of the salvo).

Later,

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:51:27 +0100

Subject: Re: PenAid SMs

> Oliver wrote:

> I know I was not clear on this, but I envisioned my version of one

OK. Seems like I got the numbers of missiles on target wrong when I
looked at this one :-( This intended version is better than normal SMs
if met by 4+ PDS per salvo, not 3+.

The D6-1 version I looked at (erroneously, as it turns out) simply
isn't worth
it - you'd need to pit a single salvo against some 7+ PDS in order to
get
better results than a normal salvo, and with 7+ PDS against a single
salvo
the results are usually pretty neglible anyway :-/

So, this means that a PenAid SM salvo with one jammer warhead and 1D5 missiles
on target should be OK at the standard Mass and Cost.

Regards,

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:00:38 +0000

Subject: Re: PenAid SMs

> I know I was not clear on this, but I envisioned my version of one

An interesting idea, but what about saying that rather than rerolling 6s until
you get a 5 or less, that if you roll a 6 then you LOSE the jammer
missile - the other five missiles are on target, but without the
protection of the jammer.

Jon (GZG)
> Oliver Dewey Upshaw III