Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

9 posts ยท Jun 28 1999 to Jun 30 1999

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:47:13 -0400

Subject: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

Funny how serendipity works - this same conversation just happened
here days ago.

A magazine article I read mentioned (roughly) the following:

Camouflage is designed to obscure shape and form. Painting good camouflage
makes minis hard to see. It appauls artists and appeals to simulation gamers.

Ask any of the players from GZG-ECC FT scenario Mr. McCarthy ran about
how hard the Savasku were to see against the starscape... (and even worse in
the pictures) despite a great black, blue, purplish kind of paint job. And
Owen G pointed out to me face paint on the SG2 figs would remove the contrast
with the uniforms. I saw someone paint DS2 vehicles so well camo'd (in a Rocky
Mtn Scheme or something like that) such that you needed an electronic outline
to pick them out of the background in a pic. Great painting. I'd love one of
these in RL. But in a game... they can be hard to see. As art, it makes it
hard to see the work you've put in your figure.

Here are some thoughts:

1. If painting camouflage, consider making it not quite in colours that will
match your terrain. At least then you can pick the fig out on the table (I've
actually had battles where well camm'd figs have
gotten forgotten about - "Sargeant, have you seen Williams?" "Now that
you mention it, I haven't seen him since we moved out of the last
thicket...").

2. Use inks and washes or drybrushing to bring out the contrasting features.
Consider not painting faces, or painting some of the gear on
your vehicles in other colours - metallics, or other shades of green
or brown - just something to catch the eye slightly.

3. If you want to paint soldiers in non-cam or in outrageous cam
schemes (why do we always stick to green grass, green trees, etc. -
one of these days I'll host a battle on my KV world with a purple or blue
surface mat, some oddball purple or blue or pink biological
formations/plants, and my KV who are getting done in a purple and blue
scheme - then the humans in their greens will be out of place!) then
go ahead. Logic: All modern camo is phototrophic and has chameleon features.
Ergo it looks like what it is behind. That means what we are gaming with is an
idealized representation of a scheme that we can easily pick out on our
electronic map boards (where we'd be running the battle from). This means they
could be blaze orange, if that is what helps you pick them out, or if that's
how you'd dress them in garrison or work dress. We just haven't got
phototrophic hobby paint yet. When we do, we can worry about matching them to
their terrain, but we won't have to as the paint will shift for us.

4. If you want to paint camo, but want something good looking and maybe even
with a flavor for the troop type you are painting, pick a historical scheme.
My NSL are being done in my version of a German WW2 and post WW2 splotch
pattern (a pinkish brown base, 2 greens, a brown, a brownish grey). The NSL
vehicles are a WW2 vehicle camo scheme using a base yellow with dark green and
red brown. My FSE Legionaires will be done up in a 1990's jungle or desert
Foreign Legion camouflage. My Israelis will get my version of a modern IDF
desert camouflage. Osprey
and some others produce 'Men-at-arms' type books with good pictures of
rank tabs, markings, and some good colour plates - these make
excellent references not only for good uniforms, but for rank structure, and
you may be able to get some good idea of a TO&E from these and other
historical references, in order to give each force a feeling of 'rightness'
with its past.

Of course, as usual, YMMV and other views are not only welcome but expected!

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:29:16 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Thomas Barclay wrote:

> Funny how serendipity works - this same conversation just happened

I had more or less this disscussion with a friend a while back - I was
saying that really good, authentic camo isn't what miniatures need, they need
camo that looks good, even if it shows up a bit more that camo should.

Doesn't mean you should go the GW 40k (or Ogre) route of neon striped
vehicles, but some compromise paint scheme.

> 1. If painting camouflage, consider making it not quite in colours

<grin> None of my 15mm SG2 figures have camo facepaint on, not even the two
snipers, who are kitted out in full or partial ghillie suits but still
have skin-colored faces - it just doesn't look right, having a wholly
cammoed figure - I find that I need that bit of flesh colour just to
say, "Hey, this is a human figure here!"....

> 2. Use inks and washes or drybrushing to bring out the contrasting

The Roco Minitank vehicles I've modified for SG2 are great for this -
all the vehicles have shovels, pickaxes, cables, all sorts of tools modelled
on the decks of the vehicles - they're great for adding little bits of
detail onto the camo.

> 4. If you want to paint camo, but want something good looking and

The late-WW2 German army produced some very interesting camo schemes -
especially the SS units, for some reason. Splotch & tigerstripe schemes,
'ambush' schemes, load of others. Find a good color book of late-WW2
German vehicles (Osprey or similar) and it'll provide you with loads and loads
of camoflauging inspiration & information. Most of my troops in DS2
& SG2 are done in camo schemes inspired by late-WW2 German
paintjobs.

From: David <dluff@e...>

Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:11:23 -0400

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

The only time I see the bright neon camo is for Ogre or supersize vehicles
(size 6 & 7). Like the camo used on merchant ships during WWI,
called Razzle-Dazzle, the intend is to hide the bow of the ship and make
it harder for subs to figure the speed and direction of movement of the ship.
The camo was not meant to hide the ship just like trying to hide the ogre.

> Brian Burger wrote:

From: Robert Crawford <crawford@k...>

Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:28:08 -0400

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

I've had great success with a very simple three-color scheme:

o Paint the figure (vehicle or PA) a dark color, black or olive.

o With an old brush loaded with a little paint (more than for drybrushing,
less than for covering), peck at the figure with two other, lighter colors
(ie, tan and light green). Don't cover the entire figure with these colors,
but let the base color show through.

o Drybrush lightly with an even lighter color.

I have some examples on my web page. The pictures aren't great, but give some
idea of the results:

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:49:26 -0700

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

> At 7:28 AM -0700 6/28/99, Robert A. Crawford wrote:

I do something similar. I use a black undercoat, and do a "damp brush" of the
layers of color and highlighting. I find that a damp brush effect dries
quickly enough to do production of large numbers of minis. The black undercoat
should be left showing in places to outline areas of color. Look at stills
from a cartoon, all the colors are flat, but the outlining makes the colors
stand out.

> I have some examples on my web page. The pictures aren't

gotta borrow a digital camera...

From: Robert Crawford <crawford@k...>

Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:29:19 -0400

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

> On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 06:49:26AM -0700, Michael Llaneza wrote:

From: Buddy Chamberlain <buddy@m...>

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:55:06 -0400

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

What are those two blue-armoured fellows at the very bottom of the 25mm
page?

God bless,
- Buddy

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From: Robert Crawford <crawford@k...>

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:56:50 -0400

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

> On Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 08:55:06AM -0400, Buddy Chamberlain wrote:

Traveller Imperial Marines. I don't remember who made them.

From: Los <los@c...>

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:04:41 -0700

Subject: Re: Painting Camouflage on figs/tanks

Check out this nice camo page with good samples:
 http://www.battlefront.com/resources/poc/index.html