other periods

I would also be interested in hearing about SG2 conversions to WW2 and Cold
War (Modern) battles. These are rules conversions that I plan on undertaking
myself in the future and would benefit greatly from others experiences.

Thanks

I've played SG2-WW2 before with infantry only (we were getting to grips
with the rules so didn't want to try vehicles!). We used the rules
'as-is' with no mods or house rules. The only things you have to decide
are are the ratings of weapons. IIRC we made bolt action rifles for each
nation have FP1 / impact D10 (as per the hunting rifle in the basic
weapons table). SMGs are in the rules as FP3 / impact D8. Since we were
playing 1940 British / French vs Germans we wanted to differentiate
between the LMGs in use. I think we gave the magazine fed British Bren and the
French LMG (Chatellerault?) a D8 support die, and the belt fed German MG39 a
D10.

> Jim Hopper wrote:

Thanks for all of the great responses.

I am curious what figure lines are available for WWII and moderns. I have only
used microarmor in the past for these periods. I understand that the Old Glory
15mm line is very popular and relatively cheap. Is this the scale people are
using for SG2 in these periods? Is anyone using a 25mm line that they like? Is
so, what about vehicles?

> I am curious what figure lines are available for WWII and moderns.

Try Battlehonours:
Their url is http://www.battlehonours.co.uk
(they've fixed their badly designed website recently)

Very good selection (including Finns & Fallschrimjagers!) of ranges, including
vehicles.

Not wanting to start a jihad over the correct scale, I would say that you
could do much worse than Old Glory 15s. @50 to a bag ($12.50 US), though heavy
weapons (HMG, mortars) come in separate bags (with crew). Focus is on Late
(1944+) war, with some 1940 and Western Desert.  Vehicles come 3 to a
bag for @ $15.00 US. For a $50.00 investment you can field a full strength
company (at
1-1).

Mixes well with Peter Pig (which is harder to find in the US).

Michael Brown

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Jim,

To add to Michael's point,I who normally plays 25mm in most things make a
scale departure in WW2 and moderns. I have found 15 to (small)20mm better for
these type of games for a whole host of reasons. One being the heavy use of
vehicles which in larger scale takes up to much room on the games table. The
other reason of course is the price, a company of armor can get quite steep in
25mm. The other great thing about the smaller scale is there are many cheap
sources for troops and vehicles and not all are the approved gaming companies.
As an example of this I just a few weeks ago picked up a bunch of M1A1s,
M109s, MLRSs, HEMITs, Bradleys, and an AVALB. These are made by a Chinese
company (forget the name) these
are plastic models in 1/87th or about 17mm scale and are already
painted. The only thing I'm going to do is put a camo scheme on them, and at
between $2.00 and $3.00 a piece not bad. ROCO also makes a great line of
vehicles and if you add the Old Glory 15s your good to go.

Don

Not wanting to start a jihad over the correct scale, I would say that you
could do much worse than Old Glory 15s. @50 to a bag ($12.50 US), though heavy
weapons (HMG, mortars) come in separate bags (with crew). Focus is on Late
 (1944+) war, with some 1940 and Western Desert.  Vehicles come 3 to a
bag for @ $15.00 US. For a $50.00 investment you can field a full strength
company (at
 1-1).

Mixes well with Peter Pig (which is harder to find in the US).

Donogh McCarthy schrieb:
> >I am curious what figure lines are available for WWII

For a cheap way to get started, use soft plastic 20 mm figures (Airfix,
Revell, Italaeri etc.) Quite extensive ranges for the line troops of the major
powers. Well sculpted figures (though slimmer than many metal minis, which are
too chunky IMHO).

Main problems are that many gamers don't like the "light" feel of the figures
and that the paint can flake off thin items like rifles. But there are
painting techniques to minimize this problem.

The same manufacturers produce ranges of compatible vehicles.

Greetings

> On Friday, February 22, 2002, at 07:11 AM, Jim Hopper wrote:

> Thanks for all of the great responses.

> the

> scale

Another 15mm Modern line to consider is Quality Castings at
<www.qualitycast.com>. I do a major amount of their samples for their website
so I'm a bit biased but they got some superbly detail stuff.

I got 15mm figgies from Peter Pig and I had no trouble with Brookhurst hobbies

www.brookhursthobbies.com

~~$25 and I had 4 squads plus some robot dudes (still unpainted, but
here's a pic of the robot -->
http://www.tablegamer.com/stargrunt/gallery.htm

jim

> Michael Brown wrote:

> Not wanting to start a jihad over the correct scale, I would say that

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Kevin Walker wrote:

> On Friday, February 22, 2002, at 07:11 AM, Jim Hopper wrote:
I
> > have

They've probably been mentioned already, but Peter Pig's WW2, Vietnam and
Modern (AK47) lists are worth having a look at.

Cheers,

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:36:19 +0100 (MET), KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
wrote:

> Main problems are that many gamers don't like the "light" feel of the

I'll second the use of plastics for WW2. You can mount the figures on pennies
or, my preference, washers (I have a set of drawers with magnetic sheet to
hold the figures). There are painting techniques that come pretty close to
eliminating the paint flaking problem.

What I meant is you don't find Peter Pig in many stores. Lots of places have
Old Glory. Quality Castings also tends to be Mail order only, though I have to
admit that the vast majority of my recent purchases have been mail order. QC
tends to run slightly smaller than the others.

Michael Brown

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> Jim Hopper wrote:

I use my existing collection of 20mm early WWII stuff - metal figures
from a variety of companies (FAA mostly but some others inc Platoon 20,
Dixons, Ravensthorpe etc) and assorted plastic, resin and metal kits for the
vehicles. I keep meaning to take some photos but have never quite got round to
it.