OT: You guys aren't going to believe this....

Hello All:

I don't know whether to take this as good or bad news, so I'll leave it up to
you:

        http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=3039

Later,

In a message dated 99-02-11 23:22:56 EST, you write:

<< Hello All:

I don't know whether to take this as good or bad news, so I'll leave it up to
you:

        http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=3039

Later, Mark A. Siefert >> Hmm, the SciFi's Dune multi part TV movie is have
troubles, darn, about the other, I don't know, it might work, well just have
to see how it is done, scripting and all.
-Stephen

----Original Message Follows----
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:19:20 -0600
From: "Mark A. Siefert" <cthulhu@csd.uwm.edu>
To: Ground Zero Games Mailing List <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: OT:  You guys aren't going to believe this....
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

Hello All:

I don't know whether to take this as good or bad news, so I'll leave it up to
you:

        http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=3039

Personnaly I would love to see this SST project come to fruition especially if
they use power armor. I was getting up Sunday mornings for
a while w/ my son to watch Beast Wars and was actually impressed with
the graphics and some of the story. There were several times where main
characters were killed off which made for fairly heavy scenes, something not
usually seen in kids programming.

Los

> DracSpy@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 99-02-11 23:22:56 EST, you write:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 DracSpy@aol.com wrote:

> Hmm, the SciFi's Dune multi part TV movie is have troubles, darn,

i read in the foreword to "Eye", a collection of frank herbert's short
stories, that the shooting of the dune movie produced about six hours of
material, and that a mini-series was being mooted. this isn't the same
mini-series, surely? not over a decade later!

> about the

well, cgi allows for nice big fight scenes. the magic of cut and paste
...

Tom

In a message dated 99-02-12 10:37:44 EST, you write:

<< Personnaly I would love to see this SST project come to fruition especially
if they use power armor. I was getting up Sunday mornings for
 a while w/ my son to watch Beast Wars and was actually impressed with
the graphics and some of the story. There were several times where main
characters were killed off which made for fairly heavy scenes, something not
usually seen in kids programming.
> [quoted text omitted]
Remeber Reboot (the cartoon)?
-Stephen

Some of us went over to Jim Bell's for a game last week and CGI kids shows
were on like Shadow Raiders and Beast Wars. My friend immediately said,

"Don't you think they could do some great stuff with Morrison's stuff?"

He and I fell to discussing whether we'd rather see JLA or Doom Patrol (which
offered much stranger stuff). That said, those shows are approaching the point
where they could go mainstream. There's just too big an opening for animation
of all stripes on prime time, if it's aimed at adults.

In a message dated 99-02-12 15:03:32 EST, you write:

<< > Hmm, the SciFi's Dune multi part TV movie is have troubles, darn,

i read in the foreword to "Eye", a collection of frank herbert's short
stories, that the shooting of the dune movie produced about six hours of
 material, and that a mini-series was being mooted. this isn't the same
 mini-series, surely? not over a decade later!

Nope, there was a dune movie, I don't know any thing about it, exsept that it
is not the dune that Frank wrote.

> about the

well, cgi allows for nice big fight scenes. the magic of cut and paste
...

Tom >> It's preaty cool what they can do now in days.
-Stephen

> At 21:29 12/02/99 EST, you wrote:

Well the movie was directed(?) by David Lynch of Twin Peaks fame so it was a
little odd in spaces but that was OK too. They did make some changes to the
plot line (for instance the weapons in use were some sort of vocal amplifier
gun rather than sheer nasty knives). You have to watch it a couple of times to
start to like it but it is worth a watch. It got cut
severly due to the original length of the film (4-6 hours?) and parts of
it didn't make much sense after that. The talk I heard was that there might be
a "directors" cut of the film released. Theres been no sign of it yet though.

As for the mini-series well I had heard about it but as nothing more
than a rumour.

Tom spake thusly upon matters weighty:

All you have to do is realize they make cartoons like the Simpsons (for a
broad audience), Duckman (for mature adults with a quirky
sense of humor) and (I think it is called) the Head - a kind of
superhero TV with a bit of an adult bent. Oh, and of course, the show with the
greatest Hero the Galaxy has Ever Known, Captain Starr.

> Some of us went over to Jim Bell's for a game last week and CGI kids

> (which offered much stranger stuff). That said, those shows are
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Thomas B states:
> Tom McC says:

Then there's my favorite, 'The Tick':^)

(say...has anyone given any thought about working out SGII stats for
cartoon characters? ;-)

Mk

In a message dated 99-02-13 10:44:58 EST, you write:

<< >with the greatest Hero the Galaxy has Ever Known, Captain Starr. >> Facing
off agents his mortal enemy: WiJaCl
-Stephen

right, i have my copy of 'Eye' to hand, so here's info lifted from the essay
on the filming of Dune...

> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Niall Gilsenan wrote:

> At 21:29 12/02/99 EST, you wrote:

correct. produced, i think, by Dino de Laurentiis. a good dutch name there!

> of Twin Peaks fame so it was

it's deeper than that. in the book, paul, as well as being a good
knife-fighter, has bene gesserit training, which allows him to control
and eventually kill by words alone.

> You have to watch it a

approximately five hours were filmed.

> and parts of it

major stuff that was cut: development of kynes' character (arguably the second
most important character in the book), why spice is important, relationship
between paul and his mentors, death of thufir hawat, and explanation of the
bene gesserit. they also cut paul's two romances, which is unusual for a
hollywood movie!

> The talk I heard was that there might

"Dino and Raffaella have talkd about restoring the out-takes and making
a
miniseries (a la _The Godfather_). This may happen because Dino wanted a
longer film all along." - frank herbert, 1985.

well, about 15 years ago it looked like there might possibly be a
mini-series one day. that probably doesn't mean much today.

Tom

> At 12:41 PM -0800 2/13/99, Thomas Anderson wrote:

> major stuff that was cut: development of kynes' character (arguably the

Yje romances were cut LATE in post-production. Very late. I attended
the premier at Zellerbach Hall on the UC Berkeley campus. The program we got
included four stills from the movie, one of which made it to the final
release... One of them was a scene between Paul and Chani (sigh).

> "Dino and Raffaella have talkd about restoring the out-takes and making

I've heard as much as nine hours was produced. What was left over made a good
movie, but as has been said before, it wasn't Dune.

> well, about 15 years ago it looked like there might possibly be a